Wandering Off Topic

[Wonderfulspam]

Don't get me wrong, Vertigo, i'm not saying you're wrong about Breuckner! I just dont know!
As I was saying to Faith, I just don't know enough about the case yet to take sides with anyone.
The thing is, one comes across all kinds of theories when you're searching the web for info, eg, Ghislaine Maxwell, and obviously you give it a read or a watch no matter how barking it may be!
In other words, I didn't post about Maxwell to try and undermine anyone's scenario, I was just putting forward the possibility and asking questions.
Besides, there is only one thing we know for sure regarding Madeleine McCann, and that is, she was reported missing in 2007 and has never been seen since!

She didn't just 'go missing', Joe. She was abducted & murdered by Christian Brueckner.
Wolters said so. You don't need to know anything about the case really or know what the actual evidence is. You just have to trust Mr Wolters. He has ALL the evidence & one fine day he'll make use of it. Until then you just have to believe, in the absence of anything tangible.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Based on what? It seems a bit of a mental leap but if that was Kates first thought, why didn't she tell the police That?

If my 4 year old kid disappeared from her bed in the middle of the night and her bedroom window was open, I would of course think she?d been taken by a paedophile.  What would you think happened to her?  Did the McCanns not say to the police they thought she?d been taken by a paedophile? 

[Vertigo Swirl]

She didn't just 'go missing', Joe. She was abducted & murdered by Christian Brueckner.
Wolters said so. You don't need to know anything about the case really or know what the actual evidence is. You just have to trust Mr Wolters. He has ALL the evidence & one fine day he'll make use of it. Until then you just have to believe, in the absence of anything tangible.

If it?s a choice between believing Wolters and three police forces know what they?re doing or believing an internet troll that Madeleine was murdered by her parents (despite his complete failure to provide any evidence of this) I know who comes across as bit more credible and it?s not certainly not the troll.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Strange, if that was her first thought, that she didn't bother to call the police & tell them. I mean, personally I think that's the first thing I'd do. And if the difference in language was a problem I'd be straight down to reception myself to demand they call them for me & I'd make sure that they stay on the line until the police arrive & explain the serious nature of the emergency. I'd be giving them all my details, all my child's details & when the police arrive I'd be explaining everything to them. But no, not Kate. After causing a scene at the Tapas she just turns hysterical, punching & banging her fists on walls. Poor Kate she just lost all control & doing the above mentioned was simply beyond her. How sad.

From Amy Tierney?s statement

?The witness confirms that the girl's father went to the reception to call the police as soon as her disappearance was noticed and that twenty minutes had passed. The GNR took 30 – 35 minutes to arrive.?

[Wonderfulspam]

May I ask what day and time you think Maddie died, Spam?

On the 3rd. I reckon she died some time between returning to the apartment from her activities to before the McCanns left for the Tapas. But I can't be sure of the time obviously. All I know for certain is that she was dead. That's why she wasn't moving when the Smiths saw her.

[Joe Blogs]

I?ve barely mentioned Bruckner recently.  My recent discussion was all about whether or not Gerry could possibly be Smithman.  I think I have demonstrated that that would have been virtually impossible.  I don?t think Smithman was Bruckner either.  Or Ghislaine Maxwell for that matter!

I dont understand? If Smithman wasn't Breuckner, who then?

[Wonderfulspam]

From Amy Tierney?s statement

?The witness confirms that the girl's father went to the reception to call the police as soon as her disappearance was noticed and that twenty minutes had passed. The GNR took 30 – 35 minutes to arrive.?

The call logs show the call was made at 10:40ish so she got that wrong.

[Wonderfulspam]

I dont understand? If Smithman wasn't Breuckner, who then?

He was just an innocent man who had a passing resemblance to Gerry & happened to have a daughter closely matching Madeleine?s description. He hasn't come forward to the police because he doesn't watch TV or use social media. The McCanns thought it best not to release his e-fits because he was very clearly just an innocent man.

[Vertigo Swirl]

On the 3rd. I reckon she died some time between returning to the apartment from her activities to before the McCanns left for the Tapas. But I can't be sure of the time obviously. All I know for certain is that she was dead. That's why she wasn't moving when the Smiths saw her.

Can I ask - how do you know for certain she was dead before the McCanns left for dinner?

[Wonderfulspam]

If it?s a choice between believing Wolters and three police forces know what they?re doing or believing an internet troll that Madeleine was murdered by her parents (despite his complete failure to provide any evidence of this) I know who comes across as bit more credible and it?s not certainly not the troll.

Well if you're happy to have blind faith in Wolters then that's choice I suppose. Me personally I'd rather trust the abduction evidence itself. But there isn't any.

[Wonderfulspam]

Can I ask - how do you know for certain she was dead before the McCanns left for dinner?

Because she wasn't abducted.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I dont understand? If Smithman wasn't Breuckner, who then?

I?ve already given my opinion on that.  Do you not bother to read my posts?  I know you don?t like reading so maybe not!

[Vertigo Swirl]

The call logs show the call was made at 10:40ish so she got that wrong.

The call log shows what time the receptionist made the call, not what time they were asked to make the call.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Because she wasn't abducted.

Astounding logic. 

[Vertigo Swirl]

Because she wasn't abducted.

So let?s go back to Smithman and have you tell us what time the alarm was raised.