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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #16350 on: February 11, 2026, 11:06:27 PM »
I?ve already made that observation.  But in fact it?s only one member of the Smith family you trust.  The one whose memory suddenly improved 4 months after the event.

They didn't get a great look at him but Aoife did notice the trousers with buttons down the legs. A trouser design which Gerry was later photographed wearing. Just a coincidence though. Nothing to see here.
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Offline Joe Blogs

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« Reply #16351 on: February 11, 2026, 11:07:58 PM »
Yes, about 5 minutes.  But unless he dropped the body the second he passed them he would have had to spend further minute(s) walking in the opposite direction to the Tapas restaurant to find this mythical bin he dumped the body in, then back again.  Do the maths.  The whole operation from the time of the alarm, including collecting the body from it?s first resting place in the mythical bush or hidehole it was stuffed in would have to be a minimum 10 minutes.  The Smiths all say they saw the man no later than 10pm.  Not one of them says it was after 10 o?clock.  There is also a receipt from the last bar they left which shows they paid at 9.49pm, so would have left within minutes of that.  The sighting was just a minute or two up from the bar.
OK, thanks, Vertigo!
So let me see, you think Breuckner snatched Maddie around 9.45ish, and bundled her into his van near by and sped off? And that the Smithman sighting was another red herring like the Tanner one at 9.15? But the man and child have never been tracked down or come forward?
Is that correct now, Vertigo?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #16352 on: February 11, 2026, 11:08:32 PM »
It's not impossible is it? For some people it's a bit too much to comprehend so it's easier to just trust the McCanns & believe that gangs of paedophiles were out snatching kids from their beds. Something that has never happened in PDL or the Algarve before or since.
Anyway, I thought you?d had enough of all this and were leaving us to pursue more highbrow activites than arguing with gullible old women on the internet.  What happened?  Couldn?t resist us could you.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #16353 on: February 11, 2026, 11:10:24 PM »
They didn't get a great look at him but Aoife did notice the trousers with buttons down the legs. A trouser design which Gerry was later photographed wearing. Just a coincidence though. Nothing to see here.
Yes, because obviously having been seen by 9 people disposing of a body you would make sure to be seen in front of the world?s  media wearing the same clothes, probably all dripping in cadaver juices as well.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #16354 on: February 11, 2026, 11:10:32 PM »
It?s certainly not impossible when you choose to disregard all the evidence which goes contra to you theory, no.  I don?t suppose many children were snatched from their baths in Tyneside either before or since it happened the one time either, so your last point is moot.

It was chaos. Most of the guests were probably confused by the hysterical woman's behaviour. But anyway,  Smithman was just innocent dad who resembled Gerry, wore trousers like his, had a daughter closely resembling Madeleine & has never come forward. Is that what you believe? Does it seem likely to You?
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #16355 on: February 11, 2026, 11:15:12 PM »
OK, thanks, Vertigo!
So let me see, you think Breuckner snatched Maddie around 9.45ish, and bundled her into his van near by and sped off? And that the Smithman sighting was another red herring like the Tanner one at 9.15? But the man and child have never been tracked down or come forward?
Is that correct now, Vertigo?

It's complete nonsense isn't it. Innocent dad who's never heard of the McCanns & resembles Gerry. What are the chances?
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #16356 on: February 11, 2026, 11:16:30 PM »
OK, thanks, Vertigo!
So let me see, you think Breuckner snatched Maddie around 9.45ish, and bundled her into his van near by and sped off? And that the Smithman sighting was another red herring like the Tanner one at 9.15? But the man and child have never been tracked down or come forward?
Is that correct now, Vertigo?
Personally I think Smithman could have been an innocent father collecting his child from the creche who never came forward (or possibly DID notify the police but as with Totman, they never logged it) or he could be involved in Madeleine?s abduction.  He could be an accomplice, or he could be a lone abductor, but I think it?s more likely that anyone planning on taking a child would choose a method of removal that include a vehicle of some sort, parked nearby.  I think the abduction took place after 9.30pm and before 10pm, yes.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #16357 on: February 11, 2026, 11:20:02 PM »
It was chaos. Most of the guests were probably confused by the hysterical woman's behaviour. But anyway,  Smithman was just innocent dad who resembled Gerry, wore trousers like his, had a daughter closely resembling Madeleine & has never come forward. Is that what you believe? Does it seem likely to You?
Far more likely than the theory that Madeleine was murdered by her parents, and all their mates covered up for them, with Dad moving the body not once but twiice, choosing to carry her dead body uncovered through the busiest part of town AFTER the alarm was raised, yes.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #16358 on: February 11, 2026, 11:23:33 PM »
Personally I think Smithman could have been an innocent father collecting his child from the creche who never came forward (or possibly DID notify the police but as with Totman, they never logged it) or he could be involved in Madeleine?s abduction.  He could be an accomplice, or he could be a lone abductor, but I think it?s more likely that anyone planning on taking a child would choose a method of removal that include a vehicle of some sort, parked nearby.  I think the abduction took place after 9.30pm and before 10pm, yes.

So it's Innocent father who resembles Gerry & had the same trousers as him, with his Innocent Maddie like daughter. Or it's the abductor with trousers & face the same. It does sound rather far fetched if you really think about it doesn't it. I mean, what are the chances that the abductor would look & dress like Madeleine?s Father? No it sounds like nonsense so it can't be true. The simplest explanation is more likely, that it was Gerry. Hence, Bury the e-fits, lawyer up & put all the focus on the Tanner sighting.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #16359 on: February 11, 2026, 11:25:42 PM »
Far more likely than the theory that Madeleine was murdered by her parents, and all their mates covered up for them, with Dad moving the body not once but twiice, choosing to carry her dead body uncovered through the busiest part of town AFTER the alarm was raised, yes.

That's not my theory. I don't believe all their friends were in on it.
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Offline Joe Blogs

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #16360 on: February 11, 2026, 11:30:10 PM »
Oh well, at least I am finally up to speed with everyone's scenario! Thankyou people!

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #16361 on: February 11, 2026, 11:36:54 PM »
Oh well, at least I am finally up to speed with everyone's scenario! Thankyou people!

Yes, that gives VS something to try & pick holes in while she continues to deny the obvious.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #16362 on: February 11, 2026, 11:42:00 PM »

The case will never be solved because of the Smith sighting. I'm sorry but you simply cannot have a Gerry like abductor with similar trousers. It's ridiculous.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #16363 on: February 11, 2026, 11:47:36 PM »
Anyway, I thought you?d had enough of all this and were leaving us to pursue more highbrow activites than arguing with gullible old women on the internet.  What happened?  Couldn?t resist us could you.

Sorry. I just thought I'd pop in and talk to Joe & give you something to disagree with. I know that's your favourite sport.
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Offline Joe Blogs

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #16364 on: February 11, 2026, 11:50:17 PM »
Yes, that gives VS something to try & pick holes in while she continues to deny the obvious.
Now now, Spam! I am not taking any side at the moment, I haven't read the statements yet!