Wandering Off Topic

[Vertigo Swirl]

Much less, evidence Madeleine was taken in a criminal act by a stranger. 19 years & millions of pounds spent & the three expert investigative forces are still completely unable to prove that the McCanns didn't do it. But let's not be too hasty, let's give them all another two decades & see if they have any luck with the issue after that.

Let's put this case to one side for a moment - do you understand that in some cases police aren't able to amass sufficient concrete evidence to ensure a successful conviction against a suspect even though they are pretty certain they have got the right man and that is why some cases remain unsolved? 

[kizzy]

Which was dismissed as a possibility by every police force investigating the disappearance.  Why do you think that is?  Instructions from the High Ups maybe?

Instructions from the High Ups maybe?

Possibility isnt it...........You have only to look at the cover ups going on at the moment.

Seems easy to do...when your a High Up.


One of the most extraordinary features of the Madeleine McCann case is the huge number of government and embassy officials, secret service and security staff, public relations officers,  lawyers, private agencies with government contracts and assorted others who descended on Praia da Luz in the first week after Madeleine McCann was reported missing.

What was it about this reported disappearance of a 3-year-old British girl which appeared to trigger an action little short of panic from so many high-level people?

[Vertigo Swirl]

Instructions from the High Ups maybe?

Possibility isnt it...........You have only to look at the cover ups going on at the moment.

Seems easy to do...when your a High Up.


One of the most extraordinary features of the Madeleine McCann case is the huge number of government and embassy officials, secret service and security staff, public relations officers,  lawyers, private agencies with government contracts and assorted others who descended on Praia da Luz in the first week after Madeleine McCann was reported missing.

What was it about this reported disappearance of a 3-year-old British girl which appeared to trigger an action little short of panic from so many high-level people?

Yes but did the McCanns ever get flown out on a private jet to Epstein's Island?  I bet they did, don't you?

[Wonderfulspam]

Let's put this case to one side for a moment - do you understand that in some cases police aren't able to amass sufficient concrete evidence to ensure a successful conviction against a suspect even though they are pretty certain they have got the right man and that is why some cases remain unsolved?

Yes. I understand that the police can't prove the McCanns did it. But they also can't prove that they didn't.

[Uncle Jr]

Yes. I understand that the police can't prove the McCanns did it. But they also can't prove that they didn't.

I suppose that does work both ways.
I don't understand how Herr Wolters' evidence hasn't been leaked in some way. I would have thought that, with all they eyes that have been on it, someone would have been tempted by the press, for example.
Unless the evidence is already in the pubmic domain.

[Wonderfulspam]

I suppose that does work both ways.
I don't understand how Herr Wolters' evidence hasn't been leaked in some way. I would have thought that, with all they eyes that have been on it, someone would have been tempted by the press, for example.
Unless the evidence is already in the pubmic domain.

He hasn't shared the death evidence with the McCanns either. They are still talking of hope for Madeleine. Or, maybe he has shared the concrete murder evidence with the McCanns (yeah right), buts its really not as convincing as the silly little man has claimed.

[kizzy]

Yes but did the McCanns ever get flown out on a private jet to Epstein's Island?  I bet they did, don't you?

No .......you know I don't,

They soon bolted from Portugal though didn't they when made suspects.

That's when Smith first saw gmc carrying twin off plane ...same way as the man who passed him that night carrying a child

[Wonderfulspam]

No .......you know I don't,

They soon bolted from Portugal though didn't they when made suspects.

That's when Smith first saw gmc carrying twin off plane ...same way as the man who passed him that night carrying a child

No Smithman definitely wasn't Gerry, Kizzy. Just because he had the same face as Gerry, wore the same trousers as him & was carrying a Madeleine lookalike, that doesn't mean it was Gerry. It could have been Brueckner, wearing a Gerry mask as his disguise. It was all part of the plan.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Yes. I understand that the police can't prove the McCanns did it. But they also can't prove that they didn't.

So (unless you are completely thick) you will understand that the police haven't been able to prove that Bruckner did it, whilst also believing quite firmly based on the evidence they have gathered that he did.  Being unable to gather the requisite evidence against a suspect doesn't prove they didn't do it.  You also obviously need reminding that the the McCanns haven't been police suspects since 2008, aren't being investigated now and almost certainly never will be again. 

[Vertigo Swirl]

No Smithman definitely wasn't Gerry, Kizzy. Just because he had the same face as Gerry, wore the same trousers as him & was carrying a Madeleine lookalike, that doesn't mean it was Gerry. It could have been Brueckner, wearing a Gerry mask as his disguise. It was all part of the plan.

afaik no one here has claimed it was Bruckner, stop being a silly billy.

[Vertigo Swirl]

No .......you know I don't,

They soon bolted from Portugal though didn't they when made suspects.

That's when Smith first saw gmc carrying twin off plane ...same way as the man who passed him that night carrying a child

Do you think the McCanns are so important that the High Ups had to get involved to cover for them?  If so, why do you think that might be?

[Vertigo Swirl]

I suppose that does work both ways.
I don't understand how Herr Wolters' evidence hasn't been leaked in some way. I would have thought that, with all they eyes that have been on it, someone would have been tempted by the press, for example.
Unless the evidence is already in the pubmic domain.

There are many examples of historic cases in which full disclosure of the evidence was not made until the trial many years later.   It's common practice not to release everything into the public domain before a case is solved, in fact it's very uncommon for case files to be released to the public as they were in this case, uncommon and highly unprofessional and unethical imo.

[Wonderfulspam]

So (unless you are completely thick) you will understand that the police haven't been able to prove that Bruckner did it, whilst also believing quite firmly based on the evidence they have gathered that he did.  Being unable to gather the requisite evidence against a suspect doesn't prove they didn't do it.  You also obviously need reminding that the the McCanns haven't been police suspects since 2008, aren't being investigated now and almost certainly never will be again.

That's why they can't solve the case. If they refuse to investigate the McCanns then they'll never get anywhere.

[Wonderfulspam]

afaik no one here has claimed it was Bruckner, stop being a silly billy.

Yes it was just innocent dad with his Gerry face & trousers, that's what you believe. An unfortunate coincidence & nothing more. Wolters can prove it. Just not any time in the foreseeable future.

[Wonderfulspam]

Anyway. Those poor McCanns. They are the constant victims of hate mail & viscous troll attacks day in day out by people who suspect them. Meanwhile, the three expert investigative forces are sitting on an enormous pile of evidence which proves beyond doubt that Madeleine was abducted & that the McCanns definitely didn't murder her. But those selfish policemen, rather than releasing the irrefutable evidence which clears the McCanns, they are keeping it all top secret. Oh well, I guess I'll just have to carry on trolling the McCanns & posting dog shit through their letterbox, since the police seem quite okay with it.