Cuddlecat and those claimed alerts.

[ShiningInLuz]

Does anyone still think that Eddie alerted to Cuddlecat and if so, what form was this alert supposed to have taken?

This person doesn't.

It is rather a shame because it would have been much more intriguing if the dog had.

I'm getting a bit of playing with a soft, mouth-sized toy, followed by 'where have you stuck my toy this time?'

If I was on a jury, I would need a lot more than this.

Perhaps the raw video shows something more impressive, but then, I don't have access to the full video.

[John]

If Eddie had found Cuddlecat worthy of an alert he would have sat down next to the toy basket and howled his heart out.  Poor little mite.

[Mr Gray]

Does anyone still think that Eddie alerted to Cuddlecat and if so, what form was this alert supposed to have taken?

it seems martin grime thinks eddie alerted to cuddlecat...

[ferryman]

Martin Grime was embarrassed by Eddie's antics in playing with the toy, picking it up and tossing it in the air.

Martin Grime didn't want any further embarrassment and so hid the toy in a cupboard (so that Eddie wouldn't get distracted from the task)

Eddie was miffed that some bounder took his toy away (and wanted it back).

Eddie barked (because he wanted his toy back).

And the myth of 'death-scent on the toy' was born.

Not that Grime was other than ultra-professional .....

[Alice Purjorick]

Lest we forget:

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/P_J_FINAL_REPORT.htm

6 – In the clothes and belongings of the Family MCCANN

- cadaver odour dog:
* in two pieces of clothing belonging to KATE HEALY
* in a piece of clothing of the minor MADELEINE
* in the plush toy, possibly belonging to MADELEINE (it was detected cadaver odour, when the plush was inside the residence – at the date occupied by the family).

There still however was insufficient evidence to proffer any charge.

[Mr Gray]

Lest we forget:

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/P_J_FINAL_REPORT.htm

6 – In the clothes and belongings of the Family MCCANN

- cadaver odour dog:
* in two pieces of clothing belonging to KATE HEALY
* in a piece of clothing of the minor MADELEINE
* in the plush toy, possibly belonging to MADELEINE (it was detected cadaver odour, when the plush was inside the residence – at the date occupied by the family).

There still however was insufficient evidence to proffer any charge.

so cadaver odour was detected on the toy but the PJ did not bother to carry out any forensic tests....seems more than a bit strange...

does anyone know if they carried out tests on the clothing

[ferryman]

Lest we forget:

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/P_J_FINAL_REPORT.htm

6 – In the clothes and belongings of the Family MCCANN

- cadaver odour dog:
* in two pieces of clothing belonging to KATE HEALY
* in a piece of clothing of the minor MADELEINE
* in the plush toy, possibly belonging to MADELEINE (it was detected cadaver odour, when the plush was inside the residence – at the date occupied by the family).

There still however was insufficient evidence to proffer any charge.

No evidence whatever, other than of a disgraceful performance of dog-handler who (largely) ignored Harrison and did his own thing (in preparation for another occasion and a different case on a different continent, America, with another dog, Morse).

That occasion was the investigation into the murder of Bianca Jones, for which D'Andre Lane was convicted.

[Robittybob1]

At 1:47 into the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qG21K6XJRg [note: set it on 25% playback speed] Eddie goes beside the couch and reaches for a toy on top of a metal canister and tips the canister over and stuff is spilt onto the floor.  Is this the incident that is described as "Eddie playing with CC?"

Edited:  previously I said:
"What I have noted is that Eddie pulls an item of clothing out of the canister ahead of knocking the canister over.
If we say he alerted to Cuddle Cat we'd also have to say he alerted to the clothing also.  I would therefore have to say "no it is not an alert"."
Reviewing this several times what I thought was clothing was his floppy ear.
So he carried the toy but he carried clothing as well. No indication IMO.

[John]

Martin Grime was embarrassed by Eddie's antics in playing with the toy, picking it up and tossing it in the air.

Martin Grime didn't want any further embarrassment and so hid the toy in a cupboard (so that Eddie wouldn't get distracted from the task)

Eddie was miffed that some bounder took his toy away (and wanted it back).

Eddie barked (because he wanted his toy back).

And the myth of 'death-scent on the toy' was born.

Not that Grime was other than ultra-professional .....

No wonder the Portuguese weren't impressed. 

[John]

Lest we forget:

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/P_J_FINAL_REPORT.htm

6 – In the clothes and belongings of the Family MCCANN

- cadaver odour dog:
* in two pieces of clothing belonging to KATE HEALY
* in a piece of clothing of the minor MADELEINE
* in the plush toy, possibly belonging to MADELEINE (it was detected cadaver odour, when the plush was inside the residence – at the date occupied by the family).

There still however was insufficient evidence to proffer any charge.

The author obviously didn't understand what substances Eddie alerted to.

[Alice Purjorick]

No evidence whatever, other than of a disgraceful performance of dog-handler who (largely) ignored Harrison and did his own thing (in preparation for another occasion and a different case on a different continent, America, with another dog, Morse).

That occasion was the investigation into the murder of Bianca Jones, for which D'Andre Lane was convicted.

"Press this button here and that motor over there will fire up". It's good to see no cowboys have been fiddling with the wiring or interlocks...

[Alice Purjorick]

The author obviously didn't understand what substances Eddie alerted to.

Did the author have to?
If I ask you to sit looking at a pressure indicator and tell me when it goes over 100 on the dial you don't have to know whether it's bar, kPa, kgf/cm2, or psi. You just need to know it's gone over 100.

[John]

Did the author have to?
If I ask you to sit looking at a pressure indicator and tell me when it goes over 100 on the dial you don't have to know whether it's bar, kPa, kgf/cm2, or psi. You just need to know it's gone over 100.

To state that cadaver odour was found anywhere was incorrect, false and misleading.

[Robittybob1]

To state that cadaver odour was found anywhere was incorrect, false and misleading.

Didn't he bark (twice) when near the sideboard?
3:49 shows a dining room table
3:53 sideboard bench unit beside table
4:07 first indication to the top of the sideboard bench
4:27 second indication near sideboard bench behind table

We don't see a shot of cuddle cat being put into the sideboard unit before the barking do we. So he was moved from what looked like a lounge to the dining room sideboard but don't see when or by who.   That could still be a sequence designed to fool the future arquidos into making a confession.

So is this the same dining room sideboard that CC gets put into later?

3:24 MG picks up pink blanket which has NOT created an alert but it is Eddie who has dragged blanket out of wardrobe.
5:37 same table cloth and sideboard as earlier.
5:45 Martin Grimes open s door revealing CC in base of sideboard unit.
If he alerted to anything it was on top of the bench or sideboard and not in the cabinet part.

Is that a sound observation?

[Robittybob1]

Have a look at 4:06 at how much opening the bifold doors are at the righthand end of kitchen unit (sideboard) to 5:38 when MG goes back to the unit to open the doors to show Cuddle Cat inside.  It is clear that the doors have been tampered with as they are more open on this view.  It is an obvious ruse.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qG21K6XJRg