Were the heal prick blood samples of MM used as a reference DNA sample

[Carana]

You misunderstand me.

These are merely reports of findings, which we have to accept as true.
 Unless you have managed to hack into the various DNA data banks, you have nothing to compare them with.

You can compare M's profile with the irrelevant male ones. If you compare M's one with the unknown male one from the car, you can work out that whoever that belongs to can't be Gerry, for example. And, despite the fact that the Gordon baby shares quite a few alleles with M, there is no known link between the families, which (IMO) helps to illustrate the factor of coincidence (unless one is particularly attracted to far-fetched conspiracy theories, which I doubt you are).

[mercury]

That doesn't necessarily follow.

The dog MAY have reacted to the scent of a dead person, just as he may have reacted to other substances within his training parameters. Aside from dried blood from a living person, Grime hasn't specified what other decaying human substances he would react to. For instance, he stated that Keela required the physical presence of blood to react, but he doesn't specify whether or not Eddie would react to molecules of blood that were airborne. There is still a question mark (IMO) concerning when Eddie reacted to sex clean-up tissues in Jersey and noted that his reaction was within his "training parameters", whether he meant that Eddie would react to decomposing sex fluids or whether he was referring to a speck of blood found on them (as Keela also reacted).

Therefore... it doesn't seem logical to me to assume that Eddie necessarily reacted to the scent of a deceased human being (whoever that might have been).

Ironically, the place in which the greatest amount of alleles compatible with hers was found is somewhere he didn't even react to.

Where was that carana? Re your last sentence.

[mercury]

There is some (there are 3 profiles in the files), but I agree, not enough relevant profiles. In theory, those profiles shouldn't have been released with the files in the first place.


ETA:

Correction: there is a third profile, besides M's one. A DNA result from the apartment in Burgau. But it also belongs to a male, and can't be Gerry either.

Thatsreally wierd, only last night i was thinking about this and thinking, if MM is ever found her dna profile will be available to all,not that it means anything terrible that I can think of, but such very personal info shouldnt be in public domain

[Robittybob1]

Thatsreally wierd, only last night i was thinking about this and thinking, if MM is ever found her dna profile will be available to all,not that it means anything terrible that I can think of, but such very personal info shouldnt be in public domain

That will be the least of her worries.

[stephen25000]

The Poruguese didn't.

The English (examining a badly contaminated crime-scene 3 months after the crime) might have.

Either way, that's irrelevant.

The British (certainly) established Madeleine's DNA by other means (the saliva of Madeleine's, given to them by Gerry from the pillow of Madeleine's bed at her home in Rothley).

Incorrect ferryman, as per usual.

The P.F.I. (Portuguese Forensic Institute) was at that time an up to date and professional service following accepted rules as regards crime scenes. More than on a par with the UK equivalent.

You should check your 'facts' first, rather than type your biased opinion.

The following may help in your research.

http://www.euroforgen.eu/portugal/

[Carana]

Where was that carana? Re your last sentence.

The boot of the Scenic.

[Robittybob1]

The boot of the Scenic.

He reacted to the booth of the Scenic not the boot.  Booth does not equal Boot.

[Carana]

Thatsreally wierd, only last night i was thinking about this and thinking, if MM is ever found her dna profile will be available to all,not that it means anything terrible that I can think of, but such very personal info shouldnt be in public domain

For a police force that was repeatedly quoted in the media as stating that disseminating Madeleine's face in the media could somehow have placed her life in jeopardy (when it was actually GA who for once actually got something organised) to then happily provide her DNA profile seems a little odd to me. To be fair, it was mainly the rentagob PJ trade union guy, Carlos Anjos, who kept banging on about it, but anyway.

What I find even more strange is the fact that other people's DNA profiles are also in the public domain: two of unidentified males, but one identified (male) one. I can only presume that it was an oversight on the part of whoever got the unenviable task of sifting through the files to be made accessible on the DVD.

[Carana]

He reacted to the booth of the Scenic not the boot.  Booth does not equal Boot.

I have personally never heard of a "booth" of a car.

boothnoun [ C ] uk ​ /buːð/ us ​ /buːθ/
​

a small space like a box that a person can go into:
a phone booth
a polling booth
​

a partly closed area or small tent at a fair, exhibition, or similar event
​

a place in a restaurant that is beside a wall and where there are two long seats, often with high backs, with a table between them
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/booth


The original Portuguese documents refer to the "mala da viatura" or to the "zona da bagageira" as captions to the rear area of a car in which one would normally place luggage.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/59-DA-27.htm


Besides which, Eddie only reacted to the outside of the driver's door, and subsequently to the key card placed in that door's storage area. Whatever you wish to call the luggage compartment at the rear - Eddie didn't react to it.

[Carana]

Jeez, this is like pulling teeth. Did ANYONE find conclusive and definitive evidence of Madeleine's DNA in the apartment?

They weren't looking for DNA, as such, but any potentially suspicious items or substances that could be sent for analysis (hairs and stains). Plus the usual sweep for finger/hand prints.

[Robittybob1]

I have personally never heard of a "booth" of a car.

....
Besides which, Eddie only reacted to the outside of the driver's door, and subsequently to the key card placed in that door's storage area. Whatever you wish to call the luggage compartment at the rear - Eddie didn't react to it.

It is the air that escapes at the lower portion of the door so the air comes from the "booth".  They didn't want dogs running over their sampling sites.

[G-Unit]

I have personally never heard of a "booth" of a car.

boothnoun [ C ] uk ​ /buːð/ us ​ /buːθ/
​

a small space like a box that a person can go into:
a phone booth
a polling booth
​

a partly closed area or small tent at a fair, exhibition, or similar event
​

a place in a restaurant that is beside a wall and where there are two long seats, often with high backs, with a table between them
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/booth


The original Portuguese documents refer to the "mala da viatura" or to the "zona da bagageira" as captions to the rear area of a car in which one would normally place luggage.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/59-DA-27.htm


Besides which, Eddie only reacted to the outside of the driver's door, and subsequently to the key card placed in that door's storage area. Whatever you wish to call the luggage compartment at the rear - Eddie didn't react to it.

I never heard that expression either, but....

Man, sitting in the booth of his broken down car waiting for assistance and making a few phone calls, whilst traffic passes
http://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-man-sitting-in-the-booth-of-his-broken-down-car-waiting-for-assistance-49396598.html

[Carana]

I never heard that expression either, but....

Man, sitting in the booth of his broken down car waiting for assistance and making a few phone calls, whilst traffic passes
http://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-man-sitting-in-the-booth-of-his-broken-down-car-waiting-for-assistance-49396598.html

As far as I can work out, "zona da bagageira", particularly in context, means the boot (i.e. the luggage area in the back of the car).

[Carana]

It is the air that escapes at the lower portion of the door so the air comes from the "booth".  They didn't want dogs running over their sampling sites.

I still have never hear of a "booth" of a car.

But, even so, they let Keela in to have a good sniff around.

[Robittybob1]

I still have never hear of a "booth" of a car.

But, even so, they let Keela in to have a good sniff around.

Only she can find the location of the microscopic sized sample points.