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Offline G-Unit

Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #75 on: September 29, 2016, 11:00:21 PM »
Because I believe Kate.

That's your prerogative, but it's definitely not evidence of anything.
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Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #76 on: September 29, 2016, 11:18:55 PM »
What page is that from?

Chapter 15, here's the full passage, my pages may not match yours;

Carlos Pinto de Abreu advised us to sue Tal e Qual. (We did begin proceedings, but shortly afterwards the paper went bust, we found ourselves with bigger problems and we decided not to pursue the matter through the Portuguese courts.) Sadly, although the paper’s article was certainly ridiculous and disgusting, it was not, incredibly, nonsense. I’m not saying the police did believe we had killed Madeleine. I have never for one second thought that. What became clear to us, however, was that some faction within the PJ was indeed the source of the story.

We can only assume that their objective was to make everyone else believe it, in order to ‘solve’ a case they were under immense pressure to conclude. What better way was there to achieve that than to harness the power of the media? So much for the law of judicial secrecy. [Madeleine]
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Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #77 on: September 29, 2016, 11:24:39 PM »
Look what I found;

I’m not saying the police did believe we had killed Madeleine. I have never for one second thought that. [Madeleine]

Perhaps you think there's something clever in selective quoting?

The quote goes on:

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What became clear to us, however, is that some faction within the PJ was, indeed, the source of the story (that the McCanns had murdered Madeleine)

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #78 on: September 29, 2016, 11:25:53 PM »
page 281
That bit was not a true quote: "What became clear to us, however, is that some faction within the PJ was, indeed, the source of the story (that the McCanns had murdered Madeleine)"
This is how it appears in the book: "What became clear to us, however, is that some faction within the PJ was, indeed, the source of the story."
« Last Edit: September 29, 2016, 11:29:15 PM by Robittybob1 »
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ferryman

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Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #79 on: September 29, 2016, 11:40:41 PM »
Beg your pardon.

Scrap that.

Ive got the wrong quote.

Somewhere, there is a report by Joao Carlos that confirms that (for a while) they believed Madeleine had been murdered.  I thought that was it, but it's not.
« Last Edit: September 30, 2016, 12:34:09 AM by ferryman »

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #80 on: September 30, 2016, 12:33:22 AM »
That's why I put the remainder in brackets (to make clear that I was not quoting Kate's words direct).

Look to Harrison's report for confirmation that this was, indeed, a murder enquiry.

And I will add the obligatory follow-up (this time, without the highlights)

Let that be an end to discussion on whether the (shelved) enquiry was a murder enquiry.

It was.
I thought so but just concerned about the speech marks missing in the original post.
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Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #81 on: September 30, 2016, 12:35:47 AM »
I thought so but just concerned about the speech marks missing in the original post.

Yes.  Fair comment.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #82 on: September 30, 2016, 12:46:50 AM »
Beg your pardon.

Scrap that.

Ive got the wrong quote.

Somewhere, there is a report by Joao Carlos that confirms that (for a while) they believed Madeleine had been murdered.  I thought that was it, but it's not.
You would wonder what evidence they had.  Was just an idea?  When would it have happened?  So they would try for a murder conviction based on circumstantial evidence, but having minimal circumstantial evidence only.
Would the kidnapper have confessed if he saw the parents being tried for murder?  It might have been an effective ruse?
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Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #83 on: September 30, 2016, 08:34:36 AM »
Not come across this, before.

Looks as if my suspicion that Harrison had nothing to do with the inspection at the villa (where Madeleine never lived!) is confirmed:

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Processo pages 2068 and 2069

A note for the case file dated 1 August 2007 with respect to the dog search reports from 31 July and 1 August requesting the authorisation necessary to search the then-residence of the McCann family and the hire vehicle.

Faced with the new matters brought to the file through the dog search reports above, [those searches being] based on Mark Harrison's report already on file, and which [search results] support that Madeleine McCann may have died inside apartment 5A, Ocean Club, Luz, Lagos, where she was on holiday with her parents and two siblings.

The above reports state that the dogs alerted to cadaver odour and human blood inside the apartment, it already having been established that no death has occurred there previously.

In point a) [apartment 5A] of the report we can infer the locations of cadaver odour as well as the presence of traces of human blood. Also at point f) we see that cadaver odour was detected in the garden immediately adjacent to apartment 5A. Nothing was signalled in the other places.

In order to allow us to thoroughly examine this situation, which could have its conclusion through new evidence, it is requested for a voice record, legally sanctioned, specifically of two locations:
1 - Rua das Flores, no 27, Vivenda Vista do Mar, Luz Park, Luz, Lagos (the present residence of the McCann family in Luz)
2 - Hired vehicle used by the McCanns, the "Renault Scenic", number plate 59-DA-27.

Further, and of no small importance, it is also requested that a magistrate issue search warrants for [the above two locations] to enable us to recover new items/clues.

I ask that you consider the above and decide at your convenience.

Portimao, 1 August 2007
Inspector
Joao Carlos

Note also, still no mention of the inspection at the gym.

And, of course, to avoid libel, I will add the obligatory (and vital!) rider:

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This legal type of crime is only fulfilled with intent, and this intent has to cover the creation of danger to the victim's life, as well as the absence of a capacity to defend herself, on the victim's behalf. In the case of the files and facing the elements that were collected it is evident that none of the arguidos Gerald or Kate acted with intent. The parents could not foresee that in the resort that they chose to spend a brief holiday, they could place the life of any of their children in danger, nor was that demanded from them: it was located in a peaceful area, where most of the residents are foreign citizens of the same nationality and without any known history of this type of criminality.

The parents didn't even represent the realisation of the fact, they trusted that everything would go well, as it had gone on the previous evenings, thus not equating, nor was it demanded from them, the possibility of the occurrence of an abduction of any of the children that were in their respective apartments.

Reinforcing what was said is also the fact that despite leaving their daughter alone with her siblings in the apartment during more or less dilated moments, it is certain that in any case they checked on them. Without any pretension or compensatory effect, we must also recognise that the parents already expiate a heavy penalty - the disappearance of Madeleine - due to their lack of caution in the surveillance and protection of their children.

Concerning the other indicated crimes, they are no more than that and despite our perception that, due to its high degree of probability, the occurrence of a homicide cannot be discarded, such cannot be more than a mere supposition, due to the lack of sustaining elements in the files.

The non involvement of the arguidos parents of Madeleine in any penally relevant action seems to result from the objective circumstances of them not being inside the apartment when she disappeared, from the normal behaviour that they adopted until said disappearance and afterwards, as can be amply concluded from the witness statements, from the telephone communications analysis and also from the forensics' conclusions, namely the Reports from the FSS and from the National Institute for Legal Medicine.

To this can be added that, in reality, none of the indications that led to their constitution as arguidos was later confirmed or consolidated. If not, let us see: the information concerning a previous alert of the media before the polices was not confirmed, the traces that were marked by the dogs were not ratified in laboratory, and the initial indications from the above transcribed email, better clarified at a later date, ended up being revealed as innocuous.

Portuguese Prosecutors.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #84 on: September 30, 2016, 09:56:29 AM »
Not come across this, before.

Looks as if my suspicion that Harrison had nothing to do with the inspection at the villa (where Madeleine never lived!) is confirmed:

Note also, still no mention of the inspection at the gym.

And, of course, to avoid libel, I will add the obligatory (and vital!) rider:

Portuguese Prosecutors.

I already pointed out that they got warrants to search the villa and the car after and arising from the alerts in the apartment 5A. Note Harrison's presence in the underground car park;

SEARCH WARRANT
 
 
Case: 201.070 GALGS
 
Date: 01-08-2007
 Location of inquiry:
 
Renault vehicle, Scenic model, number plate 59-DA-27

SEARCH WARRANT

In Triplicate

Case: 201.070 GALGS

Inquiry ? Legal Acts

Date: 2nd August 2007

?McCann family residence?, respective garages and annexes, situated in Vista Mar, Luz Parque, Praia da Luz, if necessary with forced entry.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DOGS_INSPECTION.htm

06 and 07 August 2007

Place: Underground Car Park, Praca 1 de Maio, Portimao.

Participants:

1. PJ ? Tavares de Almeida, Chief Inspector
2. PJ ? Joao Carlos Pereira, Inspector
3. PJ ? Ricardo Paiva, Inspector
4. UK ? Mark Harrison
5. UK Martin Grime UK Forensic Canine P SM Expert
6. EDDY ? English Springer
7. KEELA ? English Springer

On 6th August 2007 at about 15.17 a sniffer dog inspection was carried out of the following cars that had been placed for this purpose in the underground car park mentioned previously:

Vehicle n? 1 ? Opel Corsa ? number plate 75-AG-62
Vehicle n? 2 ? Fiat Punto ? number plate 45-49-ER
Vehicle n? 3 ? Peugeot 205 ? number plate RI-96-03
Vehicle n? 4 ? Renault Scenic ? number plate ? 59-DA-27
Vehicle n? 5 ? Skoda Fabia ? number plate 96-26-VE
Vehicle n? 6 ? Volkswagon Transporter ? number plate 44-77-KD
Vehicle n? 7 ? Nissan Patrol ? number plate VH-24-22
Vehicle n? 8 ? Volkswagon Passat ? number plate 57-12-HP
Vehicle n? 9 ? Audi A4 ? number plate 10-91-FP
Vehicle n? 10 ?Renault Kangoo ? number plate 07-50-UI

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Offline G-Unit

Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #85 on: September 30, 2016, 10:06:10 AM »
Note Harrison's presence;

Official record of the canine inspection at 18h14 on 2 August 2007 at the current residence of the McCann couple situated at Rua das Flores, 27, Praia da Luz, Lagos.

The five participants are indicated as two PJ Inspectors; UK NPIA officer (Harrison); UK dog handler (Grime); UK English Springer spaniel (Eddy).

Official record of the canine inspection at 23h20 on 2 August 2007 at the Municipal Pavilion of Lagos, [situated in] Lagos.

The ten participants are indicated as being five PJ Chief Inspectors (2)/Inspectors (3); The UK NPIA officer (Harrison); the UK dog handler (Grime); the Portuguese-speaking officer from Scotland Yard (Freitas); and the two UK English Springer spaniels - Eddy and Kila.

Following the search effected at Rua das Flores, 27, during which certain items were seized, this present inspection was performed, in a place appropriated for its purpose, attempting to identify particular pieces of clothing possibly indicated by the dogs, namely Eddy [that] indicates cadaver odours and Kila [that] indicates blood odours.
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Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #86 on: September 30, 2016, 10:21:11 AM »
Harrisons final report in which he says he recommended searching all the McCann's acommodation and vehicles in his first report, which he didn't, but he clearly agreed or he wouldn't have claimed to have recommended it;

The output of this process of reconnaissance and review was a written document entitled “Madeleine McCann Search Decision Support Document” (see appendix 2) and submitted to the PJ with copies supplied to Leicestershire Police and NPIA on 23-07-07.
It recommended considering re searching:
 
- All accommodation occupied by the McCann family and their friends as well as any hired vehicles.
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Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #87 on: September 30, 2016, 11:12:44 AM »
It recommended.

Not Harrison recommended.

A vital semantic distinction.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #88 on: September 30, 2016, 11:34:37 AM »
It recommended.

Not Harrison recommended.

A vital semantic distinction.

What was 'it'? It was the  “Madeleine McCann Search Decision Support Document”

Who wrote it? Mark Harrison;



Mark Harrison MBE
National Search Adviser
Homicide, Missing Persons, Mass Fatality Disasters
Email: markha&n@npia.pnn.police.uk
Dlrect dlal: +44797XXXXXXX

23/07/2007

Madeleine McCann Search Decision Support Document

In compiling this report I have driven and walked around the relevant areas of Praia Da Luz during the hours of darkness and then during daylight hours. I have conducted reconnaissance flights using the Civil defence helicopter. Consultation has been made with various colleagues and subject matter experts in the development of this report.
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Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #89 on: September 30, 2016, 11:45:01 AM »
What was 'it'? It was the  “Madeleine McCann Search Decision Support Document”

Who wrote it? Mark Harrison;



Mark Harrison MBE
National Search Adviser
Homicide, Missing Persons, Mass Fatality Disasters
Email: markha&n@npia.pnn.police.uk
Dlrect dlal: +44797XXXXXXX

23/07/2007

Madeleine McCann Search Decision Support Document

In compiling this report I have driven and walked around the relevant areas of Praia Da Luz during the hours of darkness and then during daylight hours. I have conducted reconnaissance flights using the Civil defence helicopter. Consultation has been made with various colleagues and subject matter experts in the development of this report.


Harrison formed his own action-plan which was meddled with and amended.

The questions are:

Why?

And by whom?