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ferryman

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Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #285 on: October 05, 2016, 04:00:52 PM »
Are you per chance trying to suggest that Harrison didn't attend those inspections that he never suggested?

No.

He was given orders (by Encardicao) and obeyed them.

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« Reply #286 on: October 05, 2016, 04:05:19 PM »
No.

He was given orders (by Encardicao) and obeyed them.

I think you should rephrase that post, Encardicao had no authority to give any English police officer orders.
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ferryman

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Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #287 on: October 05, 2016, 04:29:18 PM »
I think you should rephrase that post, Encardicao had no authority to give any English police officer orders.

Then how do you account for the fact that Harrison was handed a brief to investigate that madeleine had been murdered, yet concluded (his final report) by admitting that he had no clue what happened to Madeleine?

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« Reply #288 on: October 05, 2016, 05:47:24 PM »
Then how do you account for the fact that Harrison was handed a brief to investigate that madeleine had been murdered, yet concluded (his final report) by admitting that he had no clue what happened to Madeleine?

I must admit it, Harrison was right to state what he did since even now the police don't have a clue what happened to her.  That said, there only are so many possibilities including abduction/murder, accident or accident/abduction.  Each in its own way was possible to a greater or lesser degree, that is what keeps it an enduring mystery.
« Last Edit: October 05, 2016, 05:53:06 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

ferryman

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Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #289 on: October 05, 2016, 05:55:36 PM »
I must admit it, Harrison was right to state what he did since even now the police don't have a clue what happened to her.  That said, there only are so many possibilities including abduction/murder, accident or accident/abduction.  Each in its own way was possible to a greater or lesser degree, that is what keeps it an enduring mystery.

We are not really privy to up-to-date information about the present enquiry, though, John.

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Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #290 on: October 05, 2016, 05:57:55 PM »
We are not really privy to up-to-date information about the present enquiry, though, John.

I agree, but I'm also confident that they have nothing to report. 
« Last Edit: October 21, 2016, 04:01:04 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

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Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #291 on: October 05, 2016, 06:30:15 PM »
Not in dispute.

And? ....

In it he said that in his first report, referred to here as 'it' he recommended;

The output of this process of reconnaissance and review was a written document entitled “Madeleine McCann Search Decision Support Document” (see appendix 2) and submitted to the PJ with copies supplied to Leicestershire Police and NPIA on 23-07-07.
It recommended considering re searching:
 
- All accommodation occupied by the McCann family and their friends as well as any hired vehicles.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARK_HARRISON.htm
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« Reply #292 on: October 05, 2016, 07:00:23 PM »
Harrison could only respond to specific instructions covered by his initial brief.  Going outside of it would have been unprofessional.
« Last Edit: October 21, 2016, 04:03:04 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

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Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #293 on: October 05, 2016, 07:10:55 PM »
Then how do you account for the fact that Harrison was handed a brief to investigate that madeleine had been murdered, yet concluded (his final report) by admitting that he had no clue what happened to Madeleine?

Once more you misunderstand, His task was to advise where and how to search for a body if Madeleine had been murdered and concealed in a particular area;

This report considers solely the possibility that Madeleine McCann has been murdered and her body is concealed within the areas previously searched by Police in Zone 1 around Praia Da Luz.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARK_HARRISON.htm

His final conclusions were;

At the conclusion of this initial process of “clearing the ground under your feet” I am satisfied a systematic review and search procedure has been conducted and accurately recorded by the PJ.

I am currently of the opinion on the available information and statistical datasets that if death has occurred, that it is possible that Madeleine McCann’s body has been disposed into the sea at Praia da Luz. (See my second report entitled “NPIA OP TASK Search Doc Beach and Marine”).
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARK_HARRISON.htm

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« Reply #294 on: October 05, 2016, 07:33:16 PM »
Ferryman, Harrison wrote a report.

He wrote it in a certain way.

Why did he write it the way he did?

I don't know. Perhaps that's how he writes things, perhaps he wrote it in a hurry, perhaps he's just not a great writer.

You, however, have decided he was communicating 'hidden messages' which, it seems, only you can decipher.

Really? Are you serious?
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Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #295 on: October 05, 2016, 10:48:02 PM »
Ferryman, Harrison wrote a report.

He wrote it in a certain way.

Why did he write it the way he did?

I don't know. Perhaps that's how he writes things, perhaps he wrote it in a hurry, perhaps he's just not a great writer.

You, however, have decided he was communicating 'hidden messages' which, it seems, only you can decipher.

Really? Are you serious?

Hidden messages?

Harrison writes in plain and clear English, which anyone who comprehends English, (and that certainly includes you, whether you are actually English or not)  ought to be able to understand .....
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Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #296 on: October 06, 2016, 09:44:41 AM »
Hidden messages?

Harrison writes in plain and clear English, which anyone who comprehends English, (and that certainly includes you, whether you are actually English or not)  ought to be able to understand .....

Oh I do understand English. I have correctly interpreted the texts of Chaucer, Shakespeare and the great poets. Your interpretation of Harrison's text is incomprehensible to me, however.

Not only have you offered an unsupported interpretation of Harrison's text, you have consistently misquoted and misrepresented him.

You say he didn't recommend certain searches. He says he did.
You say that he said he had no idea what happened to Madeleine. He didn't say that.
You say he described the inspections at the gym as a 'PJ Holding-exercise!'. He didn't.
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« Reply #297 on: October 06, 2016, 10:22:16 AM »
That someone who has interpreted Shakespeare and Chaucer should mangle and misrepresent Harrison so badly is beyond belief.

Then again, I haven't heard your interpretations of Shakespeare and Chaucer.

Have you even grasped that the PJ instructed Harrison to investigate that Madeleine had been murdered?

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« Reply #298 on: October 06, 2016, 11:13:29 AM »
That someone who has interpreted Shakespeare and Chaucer should mangle and misrepresent Harrison so badly is beyond belief.

Then again, I haven't heard your interpretations of Shakespeare and Chaucer.

Have you even grasped that the PJ instructed Harrison to investigate that Madeleine had been murdered?

Harrison first report tells us what he was asked to do;

This report considers solely the possibility that Madeleine McCann has been murdered and her body is concealed within the areas previously searched by Police in Zone 1 around Praia Da Luz.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARK_HARRISON.htm

Is that the same as investigating that Madeleine had been murdered?

I read it as saying there's a possibility that Madeleine McCann was murdered.
If so, her remains may be concealed within the previously searched area Zone 1.
Please advise which areas within that Zone should be re-searched.

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Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #299 on: October 09, 2016, 02:05:30 AM »
Harrison first report tells us what he was asked to do;

This report considers solely the possibility that Madeleine McCann has been murdered and her body is concealed within the areas previously searched by Police in Zone 1 around Praia Da Luz.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARK_HARRISON.htm

Is that the same as investigating that Madeleine had been murdered?

I read it as saying there's a possibility that Madeleine McCann was murdered.
If so, her remains may be concealed within the previously searched area Zone 1.
Please advise which areas within that Zone should be re-searched.

Other possibilities or scenarios will be considered on request

(Mark Harrison).

Is there any evidence he was requested (to consider other possibilities or scenarios)?