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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #360 on: October 14, 2016, 03:21:23 PM »
So you are saying, again, that there are 'hidden meanings' in Harrison's text that only you have managed to uncover? In other words, his writings contain veiled hints as to what he really means, but doesn't actually say?

Sorry, but no. Literary works are often written to offer different interpretations, but reports by policemen are not.
Not only that, you can offer no realistic reason why an expert of Harrison's standing would either allow his professional advice to be over-ruled or, if it was, he would hide that.

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Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #361 on: October 14, 2016, 03:53:56 PM »
So you are saying, again, that there are 'hidden meanings' in Harrison's text that only you have managed to uncover? In other words, his writings contain veiled hints as to what he really means, but doesn't actually say?

Sorry, but no. Literary works are often written to offer different interpretations, but reports by policemen are not.
Not only that, you can offer no realistic reason why an expert of Harrison's standing would either allow his professional advice to be over-ruled or, if it was, he would hide that.

I'm sure Harrison did accept what was dictated to him by Amaral's boss about those searches, other than those Harrison, himself, recommended, should be carried out.

These included:

The rented villa of the McCanns

Vehicles besides those owned by Robert Murat and including the Renault Scenic, hired 3 weeks after Madeleine was abducted.

It did not include the gym.

How did the inspection at the gym come about?
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #362 on: October 14, 2016, 04:59:03 PM »

I'm sure Harrison did accept what was dictated to him by Amaral's boss about those searches, other than those Harrison, himself, recommended, should be carried out.

These included:

The rented villa of the McCanns

Vehicles besides those owned by Robert Murat and including the Renault Scenic, hired 3 weeks after Madeleine was abducted.

It did not include the gym.

How did the inspection at the gym come about?

The searches were recommended by Harrison and carried out in his presence and to his specifications. He said so in his final report.
 
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Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #363 on: October 14, 2016, 05:16:37 PM »
The searches were recommended by Harrison and carried out in his presence and to his specifications. He said so in his final report.

The searches of all holiday accommodation of the McCanns and their friends, all vehicles owned or driven by Murat and surrounding areas of PdL were recommended by Harrison, yes.

The searches of the villa and vehicles other than those owned by Murat (including two driven by people not even arguidos in the process) were, apparently, the recommendations of Amaral's boss.

And heaven knows how the inspection at the gym came about.

Offline jassi

Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #364 on: October 14, 2016, 05:48:24 PM »
The searches of all holiday accommodation of the McCanns and their friends, all vehicles owned or driven by Murat and surrounding areas of PdL were recommended by Harrison, yes.

The searches of the villa and vehicles other than those owned by Murat (including two driven by people not even arguidos in the process) were, apparently, the recommendations of Amaral's boss.

And heaven knows how the inspection at the gym came about.

Why does it matter?  The police are entitled to do whatever they like ( as long as they remain within the law)

I really cannot understand your obsession with these trivial issues.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #365 on: October 14, 2016, 06:08:02 PM »
The searches of all holiday accommodation of the McCanns and their friends, all vehicles owned or driven by Murat and surrounding areas of PdL were recommended by Harrison, yes.

The searches of the villa and vehicles other than those owned by Murat (including two driven by people not even arguidos in the process) were, apparently, the recommendations of Amaral's boss.

And heaven knows how the inspection at the gym came about.

You can't support the bolded text by cites, it's just your [unfounded] belief.
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Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #366 on: October 14, 2016, 06:10:53 PM »
You can't support the bolded text by cites, it's just your [unfounded] belief.

I have supported the bolded text with cites countless times.

Particularly a scholar of Shakespeare and Chaucer should be able to understand my cites.

Alfie

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Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #367 on: October 14, 2016, 06:25:35 PM »
Why does it matter?  The police are entitled to do whatever they like ( as long as they remain within the law)

I really cannot understand your obsession with these trivial issues.
It seems the PJ police are entitled to do whatever they like, even if it is not within the law (eg: breaking judicial secrecy by leaking like a sieve)

Offline G-Unit

Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #368 on: October 14, 2016, 08:10:10 PM »
I have supported the bolded text with cites countless times.

Particularly a scholar of Shakespeare and Chaucer should be able to understand my cites.

Afraid not. You've posted reams of text purporting to support your deductions, but not one saying that Encarnacao chose searches not recommended by Harrison.
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Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #369 on: October 14, 2016, 08:12:50 PM »
How do frayed knots come into any of this?

Offline G-Unit

Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #370 on: October 14, 2016, 08:42:11 PM »
How do frayed knots come into any of this?

The knots are what you've tied yourself in and they're definitely frayed.  8((()*/
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Offline mercury

Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #371 on: October 14, 2016, 10:07:57 PM »
Afraid not. You've posted reams of text purporting to support your deductions, but not one saying that Encarnacao chose searches not recommended by Harrison.

Correct

From the first sentence in HIS first report to the last sentence in HIS  last report, there is nothing to support Ferrymans imaginings, wishful thinking?
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #372 on: October 15, 2016, 12:11:45 PM »
I don't make allegations, I state facts with cites to support.  Why should Sadie go to the trouble of reproducing what I have already produced (countless times) and will do so again.

Here is what Harrison recommended:

No mention of vehicles besides those owned or driven by Murat.

No mention of living-quarters besides the holiday apartments of the McCanns and their friends and the Murats' place.

Mention of places in and around PdL.

That's it.

Harrison's recommendations.

The places Madeleine either had been or (please God, not) might have been.

All the rest was slung in by Amaral's boss and had no ring of logic at all.

The question is why was Harrison's (entirely logical) schedule of proposed searches tampered with and extended, and by whom?

That was Harrison's first report.

In his final report, written after that one, he claimed to have recommended ALL the searches.

You have failed to adequately explain why he did that, because the cites you have used all require 'interpretation' and if your interpretation is wrong..............



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Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #373 on: October 16, 2016, 10:56:02 AM »
That was Harrison's first report.

In his final report, written after that one, he claimed to have recommended ALL the searches.

You have failed to adequately explain why he did that, because the cites you have used all require 'interpretation' and if your interpretation is wrong..............

No he didn't.

You claim he claimed.

Just as Amaral claimed Harrison turned the investigation into one for a little girl assumed dead.

That never happened, either.

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #374 on: October 16, 2016, 10:59:15 AM »
No he didn't.

You claim he claimed.

Just as Amaral claimed Harrison turned the investigation into one for a little girl assumed dead.

That never happened, either.

You don't know what was discussed in the investigation.
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