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Offline G-Unit

Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #465 on: November 08, 2016, 01:53:26 PM »
Similarly with all the 'facts' recorded in the files ... people have always put their own interpretation on them.

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The questioning of the holiday group merely corroborated what had already been established during the investigation, without any detail that could have been reputed as especially relevant being brought forward.
https://madeleinemccannthetruth.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/pj_report_english_translation.pdf

Seems perfectly clear to me ... but to many, "inconsistencies" appear to be the order of the day.

When people express their own opinions on the facts they usually express it as imo. It's not acceptable to present opinion as fact.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #466 on: November 08, 2016, 02:20:27 PM »
Harrison didn't mention the involvement of Grime and his dogs at certain search sites.
That's a fact.

That's because Harrison didn't recommend those searches.
That's not a fact. It's an opinion.
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Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #467 on: November 08, 2016, 02:23:16 PM »
Harrison didn't mention the involvement of Grime and his dogs at certain search sites.
That's a fact.

That's because Harrison didn't recommend those searches.
That's not a fact. It's an opinion.

Harrison DID draw up a set of proposals, prefixed with personal-pro noun I, which exactly reflects Harrison's acknowledgement of the input of Grime and his dogs in his post-inspection summary.

Another fact.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #468 on: November 08, 2016, 06:19:03 PM »
Harrison DID draw up a set of proposals, prefixed with personal-pro noun I, which exactly reflects Harrison's acknowledgement of the input of Grime and his dogs in his post-inspection summary.

Another fact.

I notice you didn't answer my point about facts and opinions.
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Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #469 on: November 08, 2016, 06:25:18 PM »
I notice you didn't answer my point about facts and opinions.

You didn't make a point.

You made an erroneous statement.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #470 on: November 08, 2016, 06:40:44 PM »
You didn't make a point.

You made an erroneous statement.

It's clear you don't understand the difference between facts and opinions. Here they are again;

Harrison didn't mention the involvement of Grime and his dogs at certain search sites.
That's a fact.

That's because Harrison didn't recommend those searches.
That's not a fact. It's an opinion.
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Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #471 on: November 08, 2016, 06:42:11 PM »
It's clear you don't understand the difference between facts and opinions. Here they are again;

Harrison didn't mention the involvement of Grime and his dogs at certain search sites.
That's a fact.

That's because Harrison didn't recommend those searches.
That's not a fact. It's an opinion.

No it's not (an opinion)

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #472 on: November 08, 2016, 08:09:21 PM »
No it's not (an opinion)
It would be a fact if you could ascertain the facts.
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Offline Angelo222

Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #473 on: November 09, 2016, 02:27:39 PM »
No it's not (an opinion)

More wishful thinking than opinion.  Only Harrison knows what his true feelings were on the searches, no Report would ever reveal that imo.
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Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #474 on: November 09, 2016, 05:28:00 PM »
More wishful thinking than opinion.  Only Harrison knows what his true feelings were on the searches, no Report would ever reveal that imo.

Feelings?

Harrison's thoughts and impressions are explicit in his words.

You have to read Harrison's words carefully, but when you do, his thoughts and impressions are clear.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #475 on: November 09, 2016, 05:30:22 PM »
Feelings?

Harrison's thoughts and impressions are explicit in his words.

You have to read Harrison's words carefully, but when you do, his thoughts and impressions are clear.
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Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #477 on: November 09, 2016, 05:48:03 PM »
Opinion?

No.
Would he not have to state that the report reflected his thoughts to be sure it was a fact otherwise it is your opinion only.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #478 on: November 09, 2016, 06:37:32 PM »
Feelings?

Harrison's thoughts and impressions are explicit in his words.

You have to read Harrison's words carefully, but when you do, his thoughts and impressions are clear.

Explicit means stated clearly and in detail, leaving no room for confusion or doubt. What you are describing is implicit which means suggested though not directly expressed.

In my opinion Harrison's text doesn't suggest any of the thoughts and impressions you say they do. You have invented reasons why he wrote the way he did and then you have presented your inventions as facts.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #479 on: November 09, 2016, 07:04:53 PM »
More wishful thinking than opinion.  Only Harrison knows what his true feelings were on the searches, no Report would ever reveal that imo.

Harrison stated very clearly no inferences can be drawn from unconfirmed alerts