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ferryman

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Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #495 on: November 12, 2016, 05:18:45 PM »
That tells me that Harrison wasn't nigh too enthused by the methodology, not that he wasn't supportive of the incentive itself.  This of course raises the interesting question as to why these instructions weren't issued BEFORE ANY SEARCHES TOOK PLACE?

It also raises (another!) interesting question of why, in the files, the inspection in the gym gets its first mention just as it is about to happen: to re-inspect clothing already inspected once in the villa without result.

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Following the search effected at Rua das Flores, 27, during which certain items were seized, this present inspection was performed, in a place appropriated for its purpose, [the gym] attempting to identify particular pieces of clothing possibly indicated by the dogs, namely Eddy [that] indicates cadaver odours and Kila [that] indicates blood odours.
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ferryman

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Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #496 on: November 12, 2016, 05:22:56 PM »
I hope Alice Purjorick is paying attention ....

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« Reply #497 on: November 12, 2016, 06:45:17 PM »
I hope Alice Purjorick is paying attention ....

To what in particular?
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Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #498 on: November 12, 2016, 08:39:48 PM »
To what in particular?

Alice, Ferryman hopes that you are paying attention to

It also raises (another!) interesting question of why, in the files, the inspection in the gym gets its first mention just as it is about to happen: to re-inspect clothing already inspected once in the villa without result.


Why do YOU, Alice, think a second inspection of the clothes already inspected at the villa without result, was done? 

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Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #499 on: November 13, 2016, 07:06:54 AM »
It irritates me that someone keeps making assertions based on nothing. There is absolutely no evidence that Harrison was uncomfortable with what occurred in Luz.

The thread has nothing to do with Amaral, didn't you notice?
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« Reply #500 on: November 13, 2016, 11:06:48 AM »
It irritates me that someone keeps making assertions based on nothing. There is absolutely no evidence that Harrison was uncomfortable with what occurred in Luz.

The thread has nothing to do with Amaral, didn't you notice?

It irritates you that I keep asserting facts you can't refute.

You'll have to live with that, I'm afraid ...
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« Reply #501 on: November 13, 2016, 11:46:37 AM »
It irritates you that I keep asserting facts you can't refute.

You'll have to live with that, I'm afraid ...

Not facts, I'm afraid, just your interpretation of the facts. It's a pity you can't understand the difference like most people have.
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Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #502 on: November 13, 2016, 01:17:11 PM »
One more time:

Harrison's recommendations:

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McCann's Apartment.

The apartment in which the McCann's had stayed may present further
opportunities to search. The use of a specialist EVRD (Enhanced Victim
Recovery Dog) and CSI dog (human blood detecting dog) could potentially indicate on whether Madeline's blood is in the property or the scent of a dead body is present. In relation to the dead body scent if such a scent is indicated by the EVRD and no body is located it may suggest that a body has been in the property but removed. This search process could be repeated in all the apartments that were occupied by the friends holidaying with the McCann's.
Murat's House and Garden.

The property has been forensically examined to recover any surface trace evidence however the house and gardens may benefit from a fully invasive specialist search to preclude the presence of Madeleine McCann.
A method previously employed on similar cases has been to use the below assets.
Deploy the EVRD to search the house and garden to ensure Madeleine McCann's remains are not present. The dog may also indicate if a body has been stored in the recent past and then moved off the property, though this is not evidential merely intelligence.
Deploy the CSI dog to search the house to locate any human blood.
This will act in support of the forensic examination already completed.
An inhibiting factor will be on areas where Luminol has been used.


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Deploy geophysical instruments in the house and garden to detect any burial of a body or concealment in voids.

These specialists should be supported by physical search teams exploring and accessing all areas where concealment of a child's body could be made typically 0.5m.

Murat's Vehicles.

All vehicles Murat has had access to have been forensically examined to recover any surface trace evidence however they may all benefit from a full search by the EVRD and CSI dogs. They may be able to detect whether a dead body has been transported in one of the vehicles for intelligence purposes or detect human blood deposits that can be recovered and
examined in a laboratory for Madeleine McCann's blood.

Open Area to East of Praia Da Luz.

This open area between the village urban limits and the Boavista golf club to the east and includes a plateau on which sits a trig point and mobile phone mast.
This area has been previously searched by officers and dogs walking through the area to check for Madeleine McCann's visible remains. However considering the new scenario of Homicide and concealed deposition this area affords many opportunities to dispose of a body. Within this area there are old empty properties, wells, thick vegetation, pockets of soft sand and natural fissures in the cliffs. Whilst there is no intelligence she is buried or concealed in this land it would be a natural place an offender may choose dose to the Village using the least effort principle. A proportionate response may therefore be considered to conduct a search of this area using a team of Victim Recovery Dogs (VRD) that are specifically trained to located concealed human remains.
Prior to undertaking this task it would be beneficial to consult with a Forensic Anthropologist with knowledge of this region of Portugal to give opinion as to the likely state of any remains to be found. Further research could also be conducted with regards to the natural scavenging predators in the area.

An inhibiting factor is that since the disappearance of the child an old empty house adjacent to the Trig Point on the Rocha Negra has been demolished and all rubble removed, If she was concealed within this property the search would be unlikely to detect her now.

Praia Da Luz Beach and Shoreline.

The beach and shoreline are bounded by high cliffs and shallow waters. The beach has fine granular sand and provides easy digging. However the beach is extensively used by tourists and locals and af?rds minimal areas of cover from view for concealment. It may be considered appropriate to use the VRD dog team supported by geophysical GPR to sweep the beach.

Nothing else!

(Work in progress) ...

Next, we have some guff about the "enhanced" victim recovery dog, and than this:

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I undertook a series of briefings and site visits. These were with GNR and PJ personnel who had been involved in the previous searches conducted the week following Madeleine McCann’s disappearance in Praia da Luz.
 
The output of this process of reconnaissance and review was a written document entitled “Madeleine McCann Search Decision Support Document” (see appendix 2) and submitted to the PJ with copies supplied to Leicestershire Police and NPIA on 23-07-07.
It recommended considering re searching:
 
- All accommodation occupied by the McCann family and their friends as well as any hired vehicles.
- The villa and garden occupied by Robert Murat and any vehicles he had access to.
- Areas of wasteland adjacent to Murat’s and the McCann’s apartment.
- Areas of the beach in Praia da Luz.
- A portion of the coastline east of Praia da Luz.
 
These recommendations were based on the fact that these areas had not been previously searched with the specific intent to locate Madeleine McCann’s concealed and deceased body and that the areas recommended afforded likely and obvious places to consider for concealment in such an investigation.

Note the gap between re and searching, as in searching again
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Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #503 on: November 13, 2016, 01:29:16 PM »
(Continued from the post above)

Harrison's retrospective summary of all searches:

The timeline of these searches was as follows:
 
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On 31-07-07 the PJ conducted canine searches with a search warrant at apartments in Praia da Luz that had been previously occupied by the McCanns and their friends.
 
On 01-08-07 the PJ and GNR assisted by a canine, conducted searches on the eastern beach and wasteland in Praia da Luz.
 
On 02-08-07 the PJ conducted a search warrant at a villa in Praia da Luz currently occupied by the McCann family.
 
Later the same day PJ officers conducted a screening procedure involving items removed from the McCann’s villa.
 
On 03-08-07 PJ and GNR officers were given instruction based on translated extracts from NPIA doctrine on search management and procedures. This focused on search procedures relating to buildings and vehicles.
 
On 04-08-07 and 05-08-07 a search warrant was executed at the villa and gardens belonging to the PJ suspect Robert Murat. This search involved both PJ and GNR personnel supported by civil defence, geophysical equipment operators and a canine handler.
 
On 06-08-07 ten vehicles were searched associated to the enquiry.
 
On 07-08-07 the western beach and remaining wasteland areas were searched using canine and GNR personnel.
 
On 08-08-07 the drains around the apartment block where Madeleine McCann disappeared from were subject to a visual inspection by PJ officers.
 

Acknowledgement of Grime and his dogs only in those inspections Harrison recommended.   

ferryman

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« Reply #504 on: November 13, 2016, 01:32:34 PM »
Who would like to explain why Harrison waited until after both inspections at villa and gym to issue PJ personnel with translated literature on how to conduct inspections in buildings and vehicles?

Why is the 'official' record of the inspection in the gym screwed?

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« Reply #505 on: November 13, 2016, 01:42:34 PM »
Who would like to explain why Harrison waited until after both inspections at villa and gym to issue PJ personnel with translated literature on how to conduct inspections in buildings and vehicles?

Why is the 'official' record of the inspection in the gym screwed?

Would you care to explain why you insist that the way Harrison wrote his reports reveals hidden meanings which only you can decipher? I prefer to read what he wrote and accept what he actually said, not what you think he was too intimidated to say. What a silly idea!
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« Reply #506 on: November 13, 2016, 01:51:29 PM »
Would you care to explain why you insist that the way Harrison wrote his reports reveals hidden meanings which only you can decipher? I prefer to read what he wrote and accept what he actually said, not what you think he was too intimidated to say. What a silly idea!

Would you care to explain why Harrison's original recommendations were interfered with and extended?

Who, in your opinion, interfered with them and extended them?

Why did Harrison wait until after both inspections to issue PJ personnel with translated instructions on how to conduct inspections in buildings and vehicles?

Even theoretically, what might have come of benefit to the enquiry in examining clothing, used as clothing commonly is, fully 3 months after the crime?

Any idea?

Why use dogs to re-examine clothing (already examined once without result) in a different location?

Why examine clothing at all?

What, even theoretically, might have come from examining clothing?

Anything, apart from the canard of 'death-scent on Kate's clothes'?

Any answers?

To any of it?

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« Reply #507 on: November 13, 2016, 03:16:12 PM »
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This document follows on from the author’s two previous search documents and provides a summary of the search activity undertaken by the Policia Judiciaria (PJ) in Praia da Luz, Portugal between 20-07-07 and 10-08-07 following the authors search review and submission of his decision support documents.

Good to see they were all Harrison output.
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Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #508 on: November 13, 2016, 04:46:23 PM »
Would you care to explain why you insist that the way Harrison wrote his reports reveals hidden meanings which only you can decipher? I prefer to read what he wrote and accept what he actually said, not what you think he was too intimidated to say. What a silly idea!

Harrison's recommendations leave no doubt that they are Harrison's.

The rest are prefixed by the impersonal pronoun it!

Explains everything.

Harrison had nothing to do with those recommendations prefixed with it!

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Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #509 on: November 13, 2016, 05:10:53 PM »
Would you care to explain why Harrison's original recommendations were interfered with and extended?

Who, in your opinion, interfered with them and extended them?

Why did Harrison wait until after both inspections to issue PJ personnel with translated instructions on how to conduct inspections in buildings and vehicles?

Even theoretically, what might have come of benefit to the enquiry in examining clothing, used as clothing commonly is, fully 3 months after the crime?

Any idea?

Why use dogs to re-examine clothing (already examined once without result) in a different location?

Why examine clothing at all?

What, even theoretically, might have come from examining clothing?

Anything, apart from the canard of 'death-scent on Kate's clothes'?

Any answers?

To any of it?

It's quite clear that new searches were added after the dogs alerted in 5A. In his final report Harrison claimed to have recommended them. Why would he do that if he didn't? Please don't insult people's intelligence by suggesting that he was intimidated in some way.

I don't know why Harrison issued PJ personnel with translated instructions on how to conduct inspections in buildings and vehicles at the point he did so, and neither do you. Unlike you, I haven't invented a reason.

I expect clothing was inspected because the dogs are capable of finding things on textiles even if they have been washed.

Your attempts to twist the events to suit your agenda are very obvious but the evidence to support your assertions isn't there, I'm afraid.
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