Was Madeleine's height a factor?

[Mr Gray]

Based on the evidence I have presented, a fact.

Facts are based on proof.....opinions are based on evidence...therefore you have produced an opinion not a fact..imo

[G-Unit]

M & S size guide;

Girls Outfits
Age (years)  2-3      3-4        4-5     5-6
Height     90-98   98 -104   104-110   110-116
http://www.marksandspencer.com/c/size-guides?espotId=PDP-SG_SG-GWOUTFITS

[Eleanor]

M & S size guide;

Girls Outfits
Age (years)  2-3      3-4        4-5     5-6
Height     90-98   98 -104   104-110   110-116
http://www.marksandspencer.com/c/size-guides?espotId=PDP-SG_SG-GWOUTFITS

This is probably the most useful comment so far.

[Erngath]

M & S size guide;

Girls Outfits
Age (years)  2-3      3-4        4-5     5-6
Height     90-98   98 -104   104-110   110-116
http://www.marksandspencer.com/c/size-guides?espotId=PDP-SG_SG-GWOUTFITS

Only a rough guide to heights.
I've taken grand daughters shopping and often have to buy a size larger  than their age group, and even occasionally a side smaller for the same child.

[sadie]

Madeleine’s Height.



http://images.step2.com/media/pdfs/766600_info.pdf

First Picture Madeleine
Second Picture General Picture of Playhouse
Third Link Manufacturers Specification (different door design but appears to be same house)
From information in PDF

Lowest Point - 94.6
Calculated Height of Door 120cm (10% margin of error takes that to 108cm)
From first picture Madeleine just short of Door Height.

Madeleine being 100cm tall is a low estimate based on this evidence.

Who is the manufacturer slarti?   Do they specify all the dimensions?

I have done a search on the internet and I cant find any dimensions.  I would be grateful for a cite please

TY

[G-Unit]

Only a rough guide to heights.
I've taken grand daughters shopping and often have to buy a size larger  than their age group, and even occasionally a side smaller for the same child.

When sewing is involved two garments with the same size on them can vary. The point is that 90cm is the lower limit for a 2-3 year old. A child of almost 4 should be at least 98cms tall imo.

[slartibartfast]

Who is the manufacturer slarti?   Do they specify all the dimensions?

I have done a search on the internet and I cant find any dimensions.  I would be grateful for a cite please

TY

It was the link in my original post.

[Alice Purjorick]

Madeleine’s Height.



http://images.step2.com/media/pdfs/766600_info.pdf

First Picture Madeleine
Second Picture General Picture of Playhouse
Third Link Manufacturers Specification (different door design but appears to be same house)
From information in PDF

Lowest Point - 94.6
Calculated Height of Door 120cm (10% margin of error takes that to 108cm)
From first picture Madeleine just short of Door Height.

Madeleine being 100cm tall is a low estimate based on this evidence.

For roughing in I'd go with 1100mm ffl to soffit of arch.........

[sadie]

For roughing in I'd go with 1100mm ffl to soffit of arch.........

That would be very rough and in favour of your argument.

i have not set it out on a drawing board but I have used chamfered scale rule and dividers.  I have trieed not to err on either side.

From the GROUND to the soffit of the arch (underside of the keystone), I have measured it, as near as I can say, as approx 1 metre (100 cm).  I have found the step to be about 4 cm and Madeleines sandal soles about 1 cm thick.

Therefore Madeleine was fitting in a space of 95 cm height.  It was probably designed to that nice round figure originally.  She was short of the arch so her height was less than that

I have studied the image and noticed that Madeleines eyes are level with certian arch stones and measured that height .

The top of her head is level with other arch stones and I have measured that height too.


When taking those sandals into account,  I found that Madeleine measured
835cm to her eyes
and
935 cm overall


I have not drawn this on a drawing board with parallel motion or click head, so not as accurate as I would have wished, but I have endeavoured to be fair to both sides.

This means that Madeleine was too short to see on to the kitchen counters, but she was a little taller, it seems, than Kate thought.   However, she was well short of the 100cm(+) measurements that some managed to manufacture on here

Also IIRC the height that Amaral fixed for her of 100cm. << please correct me if I have Amarals height assessment wrong

[Mr Gray]

Chidren vary in height...some are taller and some shorter than average...its perfectly possible Maddie was  a healthy
90 cms

[Alice Purjorick]

That would be very rough and in favour of your argument.

i have not set it out on a drawing board but I have used chamfered scale rule and dividers.  I have trieed not to err on either side.

From the GROUND to the soffit of the arch (underside of the keystone), I have made it, as near as I can say, approx 1 metre (100 cm).  I have found the step to be about 4 cm and Madeleines sandal soles about 1 cm thick.

Therefore Madeleine was fitting in a space of 95.5 cm height.  It was probably designed to that nice rouind figure originally.  She was short of the arch so her height was less than that

I have studied the image and noticed that Madeleines eyes are level with certian arch stones and measured that height .

The top of her head is level with other arch stones and I have measured that height too.


When taking those sandals into account,  I found that Madeleine measured
835cm to her eyes
and
935 cm overall


I have not drawn this on a drawing board with parallel motion or click head, so not as accurate as I would have wished, but I have endeavoured to be fair to both sides.

This means that Madeleine was too short to see on to the kitchen counters, but she was a little taller, it seems, than Kate thought.   However, she was well short of the 100cm(+) measurements that some managed to manufacture on here

Also IIRC the height that Amaral fixed for her. << please correct me if I have Amarals height assessment wrong

The only argument I have is:
How far from ffl to soffit of door arch?. Estimate from dimensions given in data sheet.
Naff all to do with any kids.
Gives a door approximately 350 wide with an arch that looks to be a semi circle; the lowest internal dimension is approx 950 above ffl which from the photo of the front elevation looks to be the approximate tangent point of the arch plus 350/2 = 1125mm.
Easy old stuff without any reference to kids.
When I did metrology we didn't use kids as a unit of measurement....

[sadie]

The only argument I have is:
How far from ffl to soffit of door arch?. Estimate from dimensions given in data sheet.
Naff all to do with any kids.
Gives a door approximately 350 wide with an arch that looks to be a semi circle; the lowest internal dimension is approx 950 above ffl which from the photo of the front elevation looks to be the approximate tangent point of the arch plus 350/2 = 1125mm.
Easy old stuff without any reference to kids.
When I did metrology we didn't use kids as a unit of measurement....

Well you got it wrong. 
Suggest you go back to the basics and work thru again from square one.  If you dont take any notice of all the relevant data then you will get it wrong

AIMHO

[G-Unit]

I'm not good at maths, but if Gerry is 6ft tall, how tall is his son in this photo taken September 2007?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1563089/Social-workers-check-on-McCanns-children.html

[jassi]

I would say abouy half gerry's height , so about  3 foot.  What's that in cm?

[slartibartfast]

That would be very rough and in favour of your argument.

i have not set it out on a drawing board but I have used chamfered scale rule and dividers.  I have trieed not to err on either side.

From the GROUND to the soffit of the arch (underside of the keystone), I have measured it, as near as I can say, as approx 1 metre (100 cm).  I have found the step to be about 4 cm and Madeleines sandal soles about 1 cm thick.

Therefore Madeleine was fitting in a space of 95 cm height.  It was probably designed to that nice round figure originally.  She was short of the arch so her height was less than that

I have studied the image and noticed that Madeleines eyes are level with certian arch stones and measured that height .

The top of her head is level with other arch stones and I have measured that height too.


When taking those sandals into account,  I found that Madeleine measured
835cm to her eyes
and
935 cm overall


I have not drawn this on a drawing board with parallel motion or click head, so not as accurate as I would have wished, but I have endeavoured to be fair to both sides.

This means that Madeleine was too short to see on to the kitchen counters, but she was a little taller, it seems, than Kate thought.   However, she was well short of the 100cm(+) measurements that some managed to manufacture on here

Also IIRC the height that Amaral fixed for her of 100cm. << please correct me if I have Amarals height assessment wrong

(Internal) Highest Point: 55 in (139.7 cm)