What advantage was achieved by lying about the Huelva trip?

[Robittybob1]

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Ah but cadaver odour can't be washed out.

I've handled hundreds of cadavers and yeah sure my hands would be smelly but after sometime later the cadaver odour washed out.  It is so silly to think that after several washes all traces of cadaver odour wouldn't be washed out.

[Robittybob1]

Exactly Brietta,   

Why is this thread even here,   Kate explained why they had to call off the trip,   then she openly admits what they did,  if she was a liar then she wouldn't have put it into her book.

I call a liar someone who lies in court,  now that's someone you need to be wary of.

Does it seem sensible to drive all that way to put up some posters?  OK it is the largest city to the East of PDL with the shortest route to Spain.  It has some publicity value.   The trip in itself seems unbelieveable.
Why was the car taken for examination 4 days later (4 days after the villa) and not immediately?

The logic of that delay seems is really questionable.

[faithlilly]

Was investigative journalism really that dead in 2007?  No-one would have enquired the reason why they cancelled a trip one day only to embark on it the following day?

Thank you for the cite.

Which confirms that the McCanns knew nothing about why the police wished to see them precipitately. They did not view if as an investigation into themselves but still under the delusion they were concentrating on looking for Madeleine.  Their happiness to cooperate has been noted.
Definitely more important than their Huelva trip and definitely covered by judicial secrecy however you may feel about full disclosure of the investigation.

Never heard the phrase "killing two birds with one stone"?  Gerry's illness was expedient both from the arrangement with the police and it not being a good idea to be in transit while unwell.

They did not have to give any reason for the cancellation and if someone did ask they could just have answered 'no comment' as they did when asked if they knew Murat.

When you said precipitously you gave no timescale. They certainly knew about it hours before it happened. As to their happiness to cooperate i believe, like here if the police have a warrant to search your property, they wouldn't have had a choice.

The forensics being carried out were certainly of more importance to the McCanns than the Huelva trip but still no need to tell the press anything.

One thing we do agree on though is that Gerry's 'illness'  was expedient, well certainly after the police rang up, warning them that they were coming to the villa to do forensics. It seems to have been nonexistent before that. In fact they were all packed, ready to go, before it if Kate is to be believed.

[faithlilly]

As I have said before ... not keeping journalists informed is not an indictable offence ... breaking secrecy laws is.  Any journalist worth his or her salt would immediately go into overdrive at the lack of explanation for a cancelled trip which was rescheduled for the following day.

And?

[Robittybob1]

And?

Salt and pepper.
I think there is another side to this trip.  Did the PJ try to stop the trip to Huelva by doing all the searches that basically found nothing in the end.

[Lace]

I've handled hundreds of cadavers and yeah sure my hands would be smelly but after sometime later the cadaver odour washed out.  It is so silly to think that after several washes all traces of cadaver odour wouldn't be washed out.

Silly to send cadaver dogs in after three months then wasn't it?   The floor would have been washed a few times by then.

[Robittybob1]

Silly to send cadaver dogs in after three months then wasn't it?   The floor would have been washed a few times by then.

It is a strange story when the PJ say they brought the dogs in because of what Danie Krugel revealed with his "funny apparatus".

[Benice]

They did not have to give any reason for the cancellation and if someone did ask they could just have answered 'no comment' as they did when asked if they knew Murat.

When you said precipitously you gave no timescale. They certainly knew about it hours before it happened. As to their happiness to cooperate i believe, like here if the police have a warrant to search your property, they wouldn't have had a choice.

The forensics being carried out were certainly of more importance to the McCanns than the Huelva trip but still no need to tell the press anything.

One thing we do agree on though is that Gerry's 'illness'  was expedient, well certainly after the police rang up, warning them that they were coming to the villa to do forensics. It seems to have been nonexistent before that. In fact they were all packed, ready to go, before it if Kate is to be believed.

They did what they thought was best at the time in order to minimise speculation from the press.  Claiming that as a major crime simply doesn't stand up IMO.       You also seem to be criticising them for not doing what you think they should have done.    They are not you.

Poring over and dissecting  every word -  trying to blow this trivial event up into proof that the McCanns are massive liars is barmy IMO.          The phrase  .... 'Is this the best you can do?' ......springs to mind.

IIRC - when Gerry did say 'No Comment' - all kinds of wild interpretations/connotations/accusations were applied to those two words by sceptics, who chewed it over for years - also desperately trying to make something 'sinister' out of nothing.

AFAIAC - this is just another example of the 10 year old mantra diligently followed by some sceptics.  i.e.

''Everything the McCanns do is wrong and Everything the McCanns say is wrong'.

IMO

[Alfie]

They did what they thought was best at the time in order to minimise speculation from the press.  Claiming that as a major crime simply doesn't stand up IMO.       You also seem to be criticising them for not doing what you think they should have done.    They are not you.

Poring over and dissecting  every word -  trying to blow this trivial event up into proof that the McCanns are massive liars is barmy IMO.          The phrase  .... 'Is this the best you can do?' ......springs to mind.

IIRC - when Gerry did say 'No Comment' - all kinds of wild interpretations/connotations/accusations were applied to those two words by sceptics, who chewed it over for years - also desperately trying to make something 'sinister' out of nothing.

AFAIAC - this is just another example of the 10 year old mantra diligently followed by some sceptics.  i.e.

''Everything the McCanns do is wrong and Everything the McCanns say is wrong'.

IMO

What springs to mind for me is the phrase "the devil makes work for idle hands (and minds)"

[faithlilly]

They did what they thought was best at the time in order to minimise speculation from the press.  Claiming that as a major crime simply doesn't stand up IMO.       You also seem to be criticising them for not doing what you think they should have done.    They are not you.

Poring over and dissecting  every word -  trying to blow this trivial event up into proof that the McCanns are massive liars is barmy IMO.          The phrase  .... 'Is this the best you can do?' ......springs to mind.

IIRC - when Gerry did say 'No Comment' - all kinds of wild interpretations/connotations/accusations were applied to those two words by sceptics, who chewed it over for years - also desperately trying to make something 'sinister' out of nothing.

AFAIAC - this is just another example of the 10 year old mantra diligently followed by some sceptics.  i.e.

''Everything the McCanns do is wrong and Everything the McCanns say is wrong'.

IMO

I have no doubt that they did what they thought was best at the time but their actions were dishonest and unfortunately that leaves people wondering that if they have lied before to cover up something they knew would reflect badly on them would they do it again?

Actions have consequences and if people don't trust the McCanns because they have lied to them, irrespective of the number of times, that is the fault of the McCanns not the people they lied to.

[faithlilly]

What springs to mind for me is the phrase "the devil makes work for idle hands (and minds)"

I prefer "It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.” 

[Alfie]

I prefer "It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.” 

No one has been fooled.  We all know what happened, it's just that you prefer to view the white lie as evidence that the McCanns are habitual liars, whereas I view it for what it is - nothing more, nothing less.

[faithlilly]

No one has been fooled.  We all know what happened, it's just that you prefer to view the white lie as evidence that the McCanns are habitual liars, whereas I view it for what it is - nothing more, nothing less.

So what's the difference between an ordinary lie and a white lie Alfie?

[Lace]

So what's the difference between an ordinary lie and a white lie Alfie?

A white lie isn't as bad as a lie.   If you say your friend looks nice in something when she doesn't,  that's a white lie,  but if you said your friend is a thief and she isn't ,  that's a lie.

The McCann's told a white lie,  because they didn't want to try and explain why they couldn't go on the trip,  it was a white lie as Gerry did have an upset stomach and could have been unwell enough not to go.

[Alfie]

So what's the difference between an ordinary lie and a white lie Alfie?

I've already spelt that out.  A white lie is essential harmless and hurts no one, unlike a lie which can hurt and harm.