For Those That Believe JB Guilty...

[Holly Goodhead]

How anyone who has even a loose grasp of the facts of the Bamber case can believe him innocent remains quite beyond my comprehension. None of Jeremy's remaining family or old friends doubt his guilt; nor do any of the police or judges who have been involved in the case.

Jeremy himself kindly proved beyond any doubt that either he or Sheila committed the murders as it is quite impossible that Sheila neither could of or would have murdered her adored twins and her parents it has to have been Jeremy.

Is it not extremely arrogant for any Bamber not guilty exponent to presume they know better than JB's and Sheila's remaining family members and every officer, judge and the CCRC directly involved in the case and the jury that convicted him?

No in a nutshell!

The case involved little known about phenomena:

- attachment theory
- ballistics
- blood stain analysis
- pathology of gunshot wounds

There's no evidence to date these issues have been properly addressed.  1985/86 was effectively the dark ages for such matters.  In the absence of proper information the void has been filled with a lot of hot air! 

[Myster]

It's surprising that even after a hard day on a tractor how much energy one can sum up to murder your family, especially when half a million quid is there to be grabbed for nothing.

Bamber was driven by greed for gain and I find it astonishing that so many are thick and gullible enough not to see through the fog of lies he created. APRIL and Caroline have certainly turned for the better, and it's pity others can't do the same.

[Samson]

It's surprising that even after a hard day on a tractor how much energy one can sum up to murder your family, especially when half a million quid is there to be grabbed for nothing.

Bamber was driven by greed for gain and I find it astonishing that so many are thick and gullible enough not to see through the fog of lies he created. APRIL and Caroline have certainly turned for the better, and it's pity others can't do the same.

Jilted?

[Caroline]

Jilted?

Jilted or 1/2 a million quid? Which is the bigger motive?  &%+((£

[Samson]

Jilted or 1/2 a million quid? Which is the bigger motive?  &%+((£

The money motive is assembled for luminaries like David Bain and Mark Lundy. Amanda Knox is a ring in with the jealousy, beauty and popularity motive.
All have in common with Jeremy Bamber the abilty to come and go from the scene with no forensic attachment, and great alibis.
Can't you all see it?

[Holly Goodhead]

David I thought there was a thread for the so-called hit man 'Matthew MacDonald' but it appears not.  Anyway save starting a new thread, as it's probably not that important, I thought I would say I want to about it here!

I know you have said previously the relatives brought a 'Matthew' into the investigation and re-reading AE's COLP WS's again I noticed a 'Mathew Hampton'?

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3171.0;attach=3594

[Tim Invictus]

There are probably a dozen individuals in those organizations you mention that know Jeremy is innocent. The ramifications that would result from them admitting to it would be incredible.

You can't possibly know that so your comment is just hot air. The CCRC usually just give their decision and reasoning but don't often comment on cases; for The CCRC to state the more they review the Bamber case, the more utterly convinced they are of his guilt is pretty damning in my eyes.

Even the two jurors who voted to acquit Jeremy can't be assumed to believe he is innocent. Chances are they considered themselves not convinced beyond a reasonable doubt ..... idiots!

It amazes me that Jeremy literally has no one from his family or youth supporting him but still attracts on line fans who refuse to see the blindingly obvious. Sheila couldn't have done it ergo Jeremy has to be guilty.

[APRIL]

You can't possibly know that so your comment is just hot air. The CCRC usually just give their decision and reasoning but don't often comment on cases; for The CCRC to state the more they review the Bamber case, the more utterly convinced they are of his guilt is pretty damning in my eyes.

Even the two jurors who voted to acquit Jeremy can't be assumed to believe he is innocent. Chances are they considered themselves not convinced beyond a reasonable doubt ..... idiots!

It amazes me that Jeremy literally has no one from his family or youth supporting him but still attracts on line fans who refuse to see the blindingly obvious. Sheila couldn't have done it ergo Jeremy has to be guilty.

I find it telling -VERY telling- that there was NO ONE from his school/college/various jobs who came forward on his behalf. I refuse to accept the b--l---ks offered that such were prevented from giving evidence. I'm inclined to believe that to be the excuse given for the fact that no one offered. I do, naturally, accept that being unpopular doesn't make him a murderer.

[Holly Goodhead]

FAO ADAM

Adam I know you like to highlight JB's claims that Crispy may have inflicted SC's second gsw and I just thought I would highlight that maybe the claim is not as ridiculous as it sounds!  Read in the DM yesterday about a farmer killed by his tractor where it is thought his Jack Russell released the handbrake.

https://www.pressreader.com/uk/daily-mail/20170606/281814283831762

[Caroline]

David I thought there was a thread for the so-called hit man 'Matthew MacDonald' but it appears not.  Anyway save starting a new thread, as it's probably not that important, I thought I would say I want to about it here!

I know you have said previously the relatives brought a 'Matthew' into the investigation and re-reading AE's COLP WS's again I noticed a 'Mathew Hampton'?

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3171.0;attach=3594

They didn't mention a Matthew. they mentioned the name McDonald but just made a mistake. They were talking about the letters Jeremy received from Scotland I think the sender was called 'McTavish'? They simply got the name wrong and David has taken that, dragged it out of proportion and is peddling the idea that the hit man story came from RB. With this in mind, EP then adopted this idea (without and good reason) and made Julie recount t in a statement even though it was only Bamber they wanted to lock up. Yes, all as clear as mud 

[Holly Goodhead]

They didn't mention a Matthew. they mentioned the name McDonald but just made a mistake. They were talking about the letters Jeremy received from Scotland I think the sender was called 'McTavish'? They simply got the name wrong and David has taken that, dragged it out of proportion and is peddling the idea that the hit man story came from RB. With this in mind, EP then adopted this idea (without and good reason) and made Julie recount t in a statement even though it was only Bamber they wanted to lock up. Yes, all as clear as mud 

Oh right, I don't really know anything about this.  But I recently re-read AE's COLP WS's and stumbled across a 'Mathew Hampton' along with mention of the police and JM:

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3171.0;attach=3594

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3171.0;attach=3596

[John]

FAO ADAM

Adam I know you like to highlight JB's claims that Crispy may have inflicted SC's second gsw and I just thought I would highlight that maybe the claim is not as ridiculous as it sounds!  Read in the DM yesterday about a farmer killed by his tractor where it is thought his Jack Russell released the handbrake.

https://www.pressreader.com/uk/daily-mail/20170606/281814283831762

OMG...I've heard it all now...Crispy done it!   

[david1819]

David I thought there was a thread for the so-called hit man 'Matthew MacDonald' but it appears not.  Anyway save starting a new thread, as it's probably not that important, I thought I would say I want to about it here!

I know you have said previously the relatives brought a 'Matthew' into the investigation and re-reading AE's COLP WS's again I noticed a 'Mathew Hampton'?

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3171.0;attach=3594

I have attached it in this post.

It was first argued that it cannot be Mathew Mcdonald because there was a mysterious 'other Mcdonald' with no forename or any documents showing him to exist.



It seems Caroline has now admitted there is no other Mcdonald. Thus it can only be Mathew Mcdonald. She now claims they brought up the wrong name. The wrong name of a person who just so happens to spread rumors of being a mercenary. It just so happens to be brought up by someone who is suspicious of Jeremy lending someone £2000.  Miraculously by the same people who where given false information about the crime scene. Then by astounding coincidence would be verbatim of Jeremy's alleged confessions to Julie involving paying Mathew Mcdonald £2000.


hmmmm...   &%+((£

[John]

There are probably a dozen individuals in those organizations you mention that know Jeremy is innocent. The ramifications that would result from them admitting to it would be incredible.

I think they would be extremely foolish to do so given the evidence in the case.

It doesn't take much to work out that Jeremy Bamber had to distance himself tout de suite from any involvement in the murders and McDonald was a suitable patsy. He must have had a right laugh after filling Julie's head with tales of mercenaries and paying two grand to have five people bumped off.  The poor girl swallowed it, hook line and sinker.

[Myster]

OMG...I've heard it all now...Crispy done it!   

That's it then... case solved after all these years! You can tell a psychopathic schnauzer (or shih tzu) by his evil penetrating stare!