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Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Lifting the shutters from the outside.
« Reply #60 on: September 05, 2019, 09:26:51 PM »
Well in your theory is it possible to raise the shutters to any desired height from the inside using the pull strap?

I thought according to KM the shutter was fully raised and the window pulled right over?
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Lifting the shutters from the outside.
« Reply #61 on: September 05, 2019, 09:31:32 PM »
I thought according to KM the shutter was fully raised and the window pulled right over?
I'm not talking about specifics but in the general sense.  Can that type of shutter be raised to various heights and not jut to the fully open position?
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Lifting the shutters from the outside.
« Reply #62 on: September 05, 2019, 10:25:07 PM »
I thought according to KM the shutter was fully raised and the window pulled right over?
Can that type of shutter be raised to various heights and not jut to the fully open position?
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Offline John

Re: Lifting the shutters from the outside.
« Reply #63 on: September 06, 2019, 10:23:24 AM »
I'm not talking about specifics but in the general sense.  Can that type of shutter be raised to various heights and not jut to the fully open position?

Yes.  The mechanism allows the shutter to be raised to any position. The shutters fitted at Ocean Club are a common fitment throughout continental Europe.

Removing a child through the window without leaving any telltale signs would have required two persons imo.
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Offline barrier

Re: Lifting the shutters from the outside.
« Reply #64 on: September 06, 2019, 10:26:39 AM »
Can that type of shutter be raised to various heights and not jut to the fully open position?

Rather than that type,that one(5a) would be more pertinent imo,12 yrs on no one will ever know.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Lifting the shutters from the outside.
« Reply #65 on: September 06, 2019, 12:39:23 PM »
Rather than that type,that one(5a) would be more pertinent imo,12 yrs on no one will ever know.
Well it is a commercial produced shutter.  Either it is designed to be able to to be raised to varying heights or not.
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Offline barrier

Re: Lifting the shutters from the outside.
« Reply #66 on: September 06, 2019, 12:46:25 PM »
Well it is a commercial produced shutter.  Either it is designed to be able to to be raised to varying heights or not.

But we're talking of a specific time in history,not a general time,Dianne Webster said it stuck,was it stuck all the time,like I say we'll never know.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Lifting the shutters from the outside.
« Reply #67 on: September 06, 2019, 12:49:33 PM »
But we're talking of a specific time in history,not a general time,Dianne Webster said it stuck,was it stuck all the time,like I say we'll never know.
Gerry raised the shutter himself before or after Dianne did so it wasn't stuck all the time.
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Offline barrier

Re: Lifting the shutters from the outside.
« Reply #68 on: September 06, 2019, 12:50:40 PM »
Gerry raised the shutter himself before or after Dianne did so it wasn't stuck all the time.

I thought GM supposedly shut it.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Lifting the shutters from the outside.
« Reply #69 on: September 06, 2019, 01:00:08 PM »
I thought GM supposedly shut it.
Well it wasn't jammed if he could shut it.

But actually this is what is reported in his 10th May statement: "----- Then he closed the external blinds, made his way to the outside and tried to open them, which he managed to do, much to his surprise given that he thought that that was only possible from the inside."
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GERRY-MCCANN-10MAY.htm
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Offline barrier

Re: Lifting the shutters from the outside.
« Reply #70 on: September 06, 2019, 01:12:48 PM »
Well it wasn't jammed if he could shut it.

But actually this is what is reported in his 10th May statement: "----- Then he closed the external blinds, made his way to the outside and tried to open them, which he managed to do, much to his surprise given that he thought that that was only possible from the inside."
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GERRY-MCCANN-10MAY.htm

In her 11th May statement,Dianne Webster makes no mention of seeing GM,she states after entering 5a through the sliding doors she quote "However, she wants to stress that immediately afterwards, she went outside the apartment in order to ascertain whether she would be able to raise the shutters by hand from the outside, and found it was impossible for her. Consequently she infers that at the time of her arrival at the apartment the window would have been closed.


https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DIANNE_WEBSTER_11-MAY07.htm
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Lifting the shutters from the outside.
« Reply #71 on: September 06, 2019, 01:23:50 PM »
In her 11th May statement,Dianne Webster makes no mention of seeing GM,she states after entering 5a through the sliding doors she quote "However, she wants to stress that immediately afterwards, she went outside the apartment in order to ascertain whether she would be able to raise the shutters by hand from the outside, and found it was impossible for her. Consequently she infers that at the time of her arrival at the apartment the window would have been closed.


https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DIANNE_WEBSTER_11-MAY07.htm
That basically means nothing.  She wasn't there for thew first 5 minutes or so after the alarm was raised.
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Offline barrier

Re: Lifting the shutters from the outside.
« Reply #72 on: September 06, 2019, 01:26:13 PM »
That basically means nothing.  She wasn't there for thew first 5 minutes or so after the alarm was raised.

So anyone who wasn't there in the first five minutes, their statement's mean nothing?
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Lifting the shutters from the outside.
« Reply #73 on: September 06, 2019, 09:07:19 PM »
So anyone who wasn't there in the first five minutes, their statement's mean nothing?
Contributes nothing regarding the status of the window and the shutter when Kate raised the alarm. Too much time has passed allowing for others to have altered them.
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