Author Topic: Should Scotland Yard be compelled to make public the result of Operation Grange?  (Read 13592 times)

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Offline G-Unit

I can see no reason why people should have to guess. If OG released their evidence they could end such speculation and we could all move on.

Just for accuracy, I don't recall the McCanns urging anyone to re-investigate a heinous crime? They called for a review of the first investigation.
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Offline Benice

I can see no reason why people should have to guess. If OG released their evidence they could end such speculation and we could all move on.

Just for accuracy, I don't recall the McCanns urging anyone to re-investigate a heinous crime? They called for a review of the first investigation.

I doubt if the 'speculation' (which exists for a myriad of different reasons)  from folk mainly on the internet who spend their time villifying the McCanns is of any concern at all to SY.    The idea that they should answer to them is preposterous  IMO.

Unless you think the McCanns did not believe a heinous crime had been committed - then your comments are nitpicking IMO.


The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline G-Unit

I doubt if the 'speculation' (which exists for a myriad of different reasons)  from folk mainly on the internet who spend their time villifying the McCanns is of any concern at all to SY.    The idea that they should answer to them is preposterous  IMO.

Unless you think the McCanns did not believe a heinous crime had been committed - then your comments are nitpicking IMO.

I was referring to the speculation by your good self as to what OG might be thinking. Eventually those involved in this case may find they have to answer to the public, whether you like it or not.

If OG have the means to help the McCanns clear their names but choose not to that's not very nice, is it? They don't like being criticised themselves, allegedly;

Whatever we do, and we are doing our very best, someone always wants to criticise the actions of the police regarding Madeleine McCann.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4029785/maddie-mccann-cops-insist-search-hasnt-ground-to-a-halt-but-admit-they-only-have-11-weeks-left-to-find-her-before-their-money-runs-out/
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Offline Benice

I was referring to the speculation by your good self as to what OG might be thinking. Eventually those involved in this case may find they have to answer to the public, whether you like it or not.

If OG have the means to help the McCanns clear their names but choose not to that's not very nice, is it? They don't like being criticised themselves, allegedly;

Whatever we do, and we are doing our very best, someone always wants to criticise the actions of the police regarding Madeleine McCann.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4029785/maddie-mccann-cops-insist-search-hasnt-ground-to-a-halt-but-admit-they-only-have-11-weeks-left-to-find-her-before-their-money-runs-out/

I have no qualms at all about the contents of any report which may be made public at some future time by SY regarding this case.

If you have - then that's not my problem.





The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline G-Unit

If OG can supply evidence which eliminates the McCanns and their friends of involvement in Madeleine's disappearance they should do so and dispel the cloud of suspicion hanging over them.
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Offline Brietta

I was referring to the speculation by your good self as to what OG might be thinking. Eventually those involved in this case may find they have to answer to the public, whether you like it or not.

If OG have the means to help the McCanns clear their names but choose not to that's not very nice, is it? They don't like being criticised themselves, allegedly;

Whatever we do, and we are doing our very best, someone always wants to criticise the actions of the police regarding Madeleine McCann.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4029785/maddie-mccann-cops-insist-search-hasnt-ground-to-a-halt-but-admit-they-only-have-11-weeks-left-to-find-her-before-their-money-runs-out/

Your premise is seriously flawed.  Neither Kate nor Gerry McCann require Operation Grange to "clear their names".
Their names are already entirely clear.

Any suggestion to the contrary is defamatory.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

Your premise is seriously flawed.  Neither Kate nor Gerry McCann require Operation Grange to "clear their names".
Their names are already entirely clear.

Any suggestion to the contrary is defamatory.

It isn't defamatory to say that some people suspect them because it's true. Operation Grange could dispel those suspicions by releasing the evidence which rules out the McCanns and their friends from involvement in Madeleine's disappearance.
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Offline Eleanor

It isn't defamatory to say that some people suspect them because it's true. Operation Grange could dispel those suspicions by releasing the evidence which rules out the McCanns and their friends from involvement in Madeleine's disappearance.

Why is this so important to you?

Offline Benice

It isn't defamatory to say that some people suspect them because it's true. Operation Grange could dispel those suspicions by releasing the evidence which rules out the McCanns and their friends from involvement in Madeleine's disappearance.

And would it be accepted?  Of course not.  Not a chance.    Any more than those who demand a lie detector test would accept it if the McCanns passed.

Why anyone thinks SY would have the slightest interest in pandering to sceptics and/ or malicious trolls on the internet as if they are important is a total mystery to me.   IMO as far as SY is concerned they are all just members of the public voicing an opinion - and nothing more.     Only they think they are important and should be given special treatment.

AIMHO




The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline G-Unit

Why is this so important to you?

Why is it so unimportant to those who have been insisting on the parent's innocence for years? Why are they reluctant to be proved right? Why are they not interested in proving those who have doubted the McCanns wrong? That's a much more interesting question imo.
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And would it be accepted?  Of course not.  Not a chance.    Any more than those who demand a lie detector test would accept it if the McCanns passed.

Why anyone thinks SY would have the slightest interest in pandering to sceptics and/ or malicious trolls on the internet as if they are important is a total mystery to me.   IMO as far as SY is concerned they are all just members of the public voicing an opinion - and nothing more.     Only they think they are important and should be given special treatment.

AIMHO

The question includes the word 'compelled'. I think OG should be compelled to release the evidence they relied on to rule out the McCanns and their friends from involvement in Madeleine's disappearance. It doesn't matter whether people accept it or not, nor does it matter what OG think of the British public whom they serve and who pays their wages.

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Offline Eleanor

The question includes the word 'compelled'. I think OG should be compelled to release the evidence they relied on to rule out the McCanns and their friends from involvement in Madeleine's disappearance. It doesn't matter whether people accept it or not, nor does it matter what OG think of the British public whom they serve and who pays their wages.

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Can anyone compel them?

Offline jassi

The question includes the word 'compelled'. I think OG should be compelled to release the evidence they relied on to rule out the McCanns and their friends from involvement in Madeleine's disappearance. It doesn't matter whether people accept it or not, nor does it matter what OG think of the British public whom they serve and who pays their wages.

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It's not just the evidence though, it's the thought processes that have led them to this conclusion.
Was this a decision made by a single person  - the SIO - or a joint decision come to by  the team of 30 experienced officers ?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Mr Gray

The question includes the word 'compelled'. I think OG should be compelled to release the evidence they relied on to rule out the McCanns and their friends from involvement in Madeleine's disappearance. It doesn't matter whether people accept it or not, nor does it matter what OG think of the British public whom they serve and who pays their wages.

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Police cannot be compelled to publicise evidence just because a bunch of bloggers want them to

Offline jassi

Indeed, Britain would need to be a much more open democracy to allow that to happen.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future