McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights

[Mr Gray]

A flawed judgement, overuled.

Amaral won. A matter of fact.

It is the Mccanns who were toast in the Portuguese Court, and they lost badly.

Still waiting to hear when they will pay up.

Their accounts are due by The end of the month.

Courtesy of Companies House.

A useful source of information to say the least.

a flawed judgement overuled..that is your opinion...imo it was correct...the  ECHR will decide who is correct...they may well decide the SC judgement was flawed

[John]

As i have said many times I correctly predicted amaral was toast re the first hearing
I then correctly predicted amaral might win the second

I didnt comment on the third


I believe teh mccanns have applied to the ECHR...im confident their case will be accepted and Im confdent they will be successful

The judgement is their to read but from the posts some have not read it... I have read it and dont recall the SC saying the mccanns were not innocent...have you read it

The Portuguese Supreme Court were very clear in what they stated after considering the McCann's appeal against the very detailed decision by the Court of Appeal.  They didn't have to make the prouncement they did but chose to do so given what the McCanns had earlier claimed.  The Supreme Court stated that the McCanns had not proven their innocence, they did not state they weren't innocent.

As has been pointed out on numerous occasions, the ECHR cannot overturn a national court's decision.  The McCann's lost their defamation action against Goncalo Amaral and Others and that is the end of it.

[Mr Gray]

The Portuguese Supreme Court were very clear in what they stated after considering the McCann's appeal against the very detailed decision by the Court of Appeal.  They didn't have to make the prouncement they did but chose to do so given what the McCanns had earlier claimed.  The Supreme Court stated that the McCanns had not proven their innocence, they did not state they weren't innocent.

You are correct john...the SC pronounced the mcCanns had not proved their innocence...that is a fact...The SC ruling does not imply that the SC were questioning the mccanns innocence as some seem to think...as we know the fact is that it can be basically impossible to prove innocence...as Barry george has discovered

[Mr Gray]

The Portuguese Supreme Court were very clear in what they stated after considering the McCann's appeal against the very detailed decision by the Court of Appeal.  They didn't have to make the prouncement they did but chose to do so given what the McCanns had earlier claimed.  The Supreme Court stated that the McCanns had not proven their innocence, they did not state they weren't innocent.

As has been pointed out on numerous occasions, the ECHR cannot overturn a national court's decision.  The McCann's lost their defamation action against Goncalo Amaral and Others and that is the end of it.

The ECHR can rule that the judgement was flawed and incorrect...as they have done on many occasions...

[stephen25000]

a flawed judgement overuled..that is your opinion...imo it was correct...the  ECHR will decide who is correct...they may well decide the SC judgement was flawed

That judgement is done and dusted.

It cannot be overturned.

As is also known, many governments ignore E.C.H. R. rulings.


So effectively, it is a toothless appendage with b....r all clout in the real world.

Meanwhile, the Mccanns have to pay up.

[Mr Gray]

That judgement is done and dusted.

It cannot be overturned.

As is also known, many governments ignore E.C.H. R. rulings.


So effectively, it is a toothless appendage with b....r all clout in the real world.

Meanwhile, the Mccanns have to pay up.

as I have pointed out the ECHR can rule the SC judgeemnt was flawed and incorrect

It can also award damages...so it is not toothless

[barrier]

The ECHR can rule that the judgement was flawed and incorrect...as they have done on many occasions...

Cites would be useful,what is the outcome after these findings?

[Mr Gray]

Cites would be useful,what is the outcome after these findings?

The ECHR have ruled judgements by many courts ..including portugal...as being incorrect

[stephen25000]

as I have pointed out the ECHR can rule the SC judgeemnt was flawed and incorrect

So when was the Mccanns case accepted.

As I said , many governments ignore the rulings.

...and if the Mccanns don't pay up, as I fully expect, they will be laughed out of the E.C.H.R.

Namely, NIL POINTS.

[barrier]

The ECHR have ruled judgements by many courts ..including portugal...as being incorrect

Cites please.

[Mr Gray]

Cites please.

Are you raelly suggesting tht no one has ever been successful at the ECHR...taht is quite absurd

[stephen25000]

as I have pointed out the ECHR can rule the SC judgeemnt was flawed and incorrect

It can also award damages...so it is not toothless

Many countries ignore the rulings.

I have cited evidence before on that.

Easily found.

[Mr Gray]

the UK govt are currently being forced to look at votes for prisoners after an ECHR ruling brought by an axe murderer...how ironic

[Mr Gray]

Many countries ignore the rulings.

I have cited evidence before on that.

Easily found.

Doesnt matter if portugal ignore the ruling ...a ruling would show that the mccans were unfairly treated by the portuguese justice system

[barrier]

Are you raelly suggesting tht no one has ever been successful at the ECHR...taht is quite absurd

I mistakenly thought that cites should be provided to back up assertions,my bad.Still its a useful reference point in future.