General discussion about the latest news (not search related)

[ferryman]

The dogs solved this case.

And I am the Queen of Sheba ...

[ferryman]

The spurious and often inaccurately reported forensic findings, the irrelevant behaviour of the cadaver dogs, Mr and Mrs McCann’s perceived demeanour, as well as many other totally irrelevant points just fuel this uninformed and I must say offensive conjecture. The simple answer is, there is no information, let alone evidence to indicate their involvement in any way. Should they have supervised their children more closely that night? That is not for me to say, but regardless of the answer, it does not assist the investigation in any way.

Ian Horrocks.

http://www.bgpglobalservices.com/announcements/what-happened-to-madeleine-mccann

[stephen25000]

The spurious and often inaccurately reported forensic findings, the irrelevant behaviour of the cadaver dogs, Mr and Mrs McCann’s perceived demeanour, as well as many other totally irrelevant points just fuel this uninformed and I must say offensive conjecture. The simple answer is, there is no information, let alone evidence to indicate their involvement in any way. Should they have supervised their children more closely that night? That is not for me to say, but regardless of the answer, it does not assist the investigation in any way.

Ian Horrocks.

and Ian Horrocks was involved in the Barry George case.

Try again Queen of Sheba.

[jassi]

The spurious and often inaccurately reported forensic findings, the irrelevant behaviour of the cadaver dogs, Mr and Mrs McCann’s perceived demeanour, as well as many other totally irrelevant points just fuel this uninformed and I must say offensive conjecture. The simple answer is, there is no information, let alone evidence to indicate their involvement in any way. Should they have supervised their children more closely that night? That is not for me to say, but regardless of the answer, it does not assist the investigation in any way.

Ian Horrocks.

http://www.bgpglobalservices.com/announcements/what-happened-to-madeleine-mccann

Why should you feel offended ?

[Mr Gray]

and Ian Horrocks was involved in the Barry George case.

Try again Queen of Sheba.

If barry George had been arrested in Portugal he would now be in prison for life having confessed

[Montclair]

If barry George had been arrested in Portugal he would now be in prison for life having confessed

Sorry, no life sentences in Portugal. The most anyone can get is 25 years, even if they murder 10 people.

[Mr Gray]

Sorry, no life sentences in Portugal. The most anyone can get is 25 years, even if they murder 10 people.

in the uk...life is 15 years

[pegasus]

Was it rumoured in the latest news that the current investigation leader worked on the Addington case?
Is that right? Now wasn't the huge mistake in that case that the investigation assumed a far too early time for exiting the premises?

[Brietta]

Was it rumoured in the latest news that the current investigation leader worked on the Addington case?
Is that right? Now wasn't the huge mistake in that case that the investigation assumed a far too early time for exiting the premises?

That would appear to be the stuation ... that they may have been considered to have left the premises too early could possibly have been due to an over reliance on the nose of a dog.

** snip**
She oversaw the investigation into the murder of Tia Sharp, whose body was found in the loft of her grandmother's house in New Addington, south London, days after she went missing in August 2012.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2869936/Female-Met-officer-taking-Madeleine-McCann-inquiry-arrives-Portugal-ahead-questioning-former-suspect-Robert-Murat.html#ixzz3MrXnz994

[pathfinder73]

Despite four searches by police officers using sniffer dogs, it was not until a specialist dog was taken in, that Tia's remains were found.

Met Commander Neil Basu, who was responsible for finding Tia, insisted the murder victim’s body was ‘well concealed’.
He said a review found ‘human error’ in how the searches were conducted and managed was to blame for the extraordinary mistake.

He added that the PC who first searched the loft was ‘inexperienced’ and he was given ‘words of advice’, the lowest form of disciplinary sanction.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2324061/Tia-Sharp-Met-forced-apologise-family-FOUR-searches-failed-spot-body.html

[pegasus]

In that south London case the failure to solve the case for a whole 5 days was due entirely to a drastically incorrect assumption by investigators about time of leaving residence.
Now look at first page of final report in the Portugal case and find a similar assumption.

[ferryman]

Sorry, no life sentences in Portugal. The most anyone can get is 25 years, even if they murder 10 people.

In England, sentences where a  term of imprisonment is specified can still be referred to as a 'life' term.

Semantic nit-picking is scarcely conducive to constructive debate ...

http://sentencingcouncil.judiciary.gov.uk/sentencing/Life-sentences.htm

[misty]

In that south London case the failure to solve the case for a whole 5 days was due entirely to a drastically incorrect assumption by investigators about time of leaving residence.
Now look at first page of final report in the Portugal case and find a similar assumption.

I rather thought it was the inability of the police to conduct a thorough search of the property on more than one occasion in the Sharpe case.

[pegasus]

I rather thought it was the inability of the police to conduct a thorough search of the property on more than one occasion in the Sharpe case.

From the moment the police arrived they subconsciously assumed that the object of their search was not in the premises. Therefore they did not search as thoroughly as they should inside - they missed places. And those are not the only two cases where this happened - here are two more - the Turner case - and the Castillo case.

[misty]

From the moment the police arrived they subconsciously assumed that the object of their search was not in the premises. Therefore they did not search as thoroughly as they should inside - they missed places. And those are not the only two cases where this happened - here are two more - the Turner case - and the Castillo case.

I am not familiar with the 2 other cases to which you refer - would you be good enough to provide Christian names, please?
The subconscious assumption that TS was not on the premises - would that not have altered the moment the officers became aware of the background of the last known person to see her? I find it very distressing that the police in situ were just so damned incompetent.