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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2235 on: October 25, 2016, 04:35:18 PM »
Deorr Kunz Jr.
William Tyrrell
Raine Peterson
Noah Chamberlain
Issac Leuewenberger

Guess how many of these children the sniffer dogs tracked/located?

Dunno.
Do you have a comprehensive list so I can do my own comparisons?
I trust that method more than the being spoonfed someone elses prejudices method.
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Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2236 on: November 04, 2016, 12:52:52 PM »
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-37871157 Not Madeleine-like in the slightest, but there is a minor reference to a cadaver dog.
What's up, old man?

Offline sadie

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2237 on: November 05, 2016, 12:09:47 AM »
Deorr Kunz Jr.
William Tyrrell
Raine Peterson
Noah Chamberlain
Issac Leuewenberger

Guess how many of these children the sniffer dogs tracked/located?
Just saying,

A lot of Jewish names there misty. 

Names 1,2,4, and 5 have Jewish elements.  Am not sure about number 3

Offline mercury

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2238 on: November 05, 2016, 12:25:14 AM »
Just saying,

A lot of Jewish names there misty. 

Names 1,2,4, and 5 have Jewish elements.  Am not sure about number 3

So??? You and your names, PROVE any of it matters, chop chop

Offline sadie

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2239 on: November 05, 2016, 01:04:12 AM »
So??? You and your names, PROVE any of it matters, chop chop

Roots of names and history are much more important in this case than you would ever believe.

Hopefully time will prove it to you.

Offline Brietta

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2240 on: November 05, 2016, 01:09:22 PM »
'Maybe tomorrow we will find something to lead us back to Madeleine': Kate McCann says every day brings her fresh hope that her daughter will be found
  • Ms McCann said she believes every day that Madeleine will be found alive
  • She said she 'never imagined' Madeleine would still be missing 10 years on
  • Ms McCann joined Ros Hodgkiss whose daughter Alice, 14, was murdered
  • Bereft parents spoke as they launched charity campaign, Find Every Child

By TRACEY KANDOHLA FOR MAILONLINE
PUBLISHED: 15:42, 4 November 2016 | UPDATED: 18:55, 4 November 2016

Ms Hodgkiss, pictured with her daughter Nina, said the family are indebted to the charity Missing People for its help

Kate McCann says every day brings fresh hope that her missing daughter Madeleine will be found.

Ms McCann, whose daughter has been missing since 2007, said she still believes that every new day will be the one to end her torment.

The former GP revealed her continued heartache during an impassioned speech as she joined forces with the mother of murdered Alice Gross to launch a new charity.

The appeal, Find Every Child, aims to raise money so the charity Missing People can reach out to the thousands of youngsters who disappear each year.

Speaking at the launch event in London, Ms McCann said: 'We go to bed every night with the agonising feeling that just maybe tomorrow we will find something to lead us back to Madeleine. To let us know what happened. To give us hope.'

Ms McCann shared the stage at the Corinthia Hotel with Ros Hodgkiss, whose 14-year-old daughter Alice was found dead in September 2014 after she went missing for five weeks.

Together, the mothers - united it grief over the loss of their daughters - highlighted the plight of 140,000 youngsters who go missing in Britain each year.

Ms McCann, an ambassador for Missing People, then made an impromptu speech in which she urged the public to give their support.

'When my little girl first disappeared, on that horrendous night that changed our lives forever, I could never have imagined that nearly 10 years later we would still be in the same position.

'That I would be stood here in front of you tonight talking about the issue and how important it is that we look for each and every missing child.

'Giving hope is what Missing People do day in and day out. Please help this wonderful charity in their ambitious goal to Find Every Child.'

Ms Hodgkiss also relived the nightmare of her daughter's disappearance and murder, adding that the family are indebted to the charity for its help.

She said: 'We had access to their 24 hour helpline to help us deal with the ongoing crisis of her disappearance.

'Missing People also provided specialized trauma counselling to us, which helped us manage the immediate aftermath of Alice's disappearance prior to the news of her death.'

She said it was still hard to express the 'enormity' of their loss.

She added: 'The one thing we can be certain of is that our lives can never be the same again.

'But Missing People helped me, and I know that they will help other parents faced with the disorienting mayhem of a child going missing. Find every child is one way of doing that.'

Madeleine, three, vanished from a holiday apartment in Portugal's Praia da Luz nearly 10 years ago in May 2007.

Ms McCann and her heart doctor husband Gerry, both 48, from Rothley, Leicestershire, believe their daughter – who would now be aged 13 – could still be alive.

Her family have been buoyed up by Scotland Yard's pledge to continue searching for Madeleine for at least another five months.

Schoolgirl Alice never returned to her home in Hanwell, West London, after going for a walk in August 2014.

Her Latvian killer Arnis Zalkalns , who hung himself, had been able to live freely in Britain despite a conviction for murdering his wife in Latvia.

Continuing her plea, Alice's mother described the time of Alice's disappearnace as 'an unbearable period of shock and suspended grief.'

In a reference to Ms McCann, she added: 'But there are families and friends who have had people missing for months, years, decades.'

She paid tribute to her daughter as 'a vibrant girl, full of life and energy, quirky and funny, smart and pretty.' She is helping to repair her life by singing in the Missing People choir – music was her daughter's passion.

Jo Youle, charity CEO, said: 'If every vulnerable child who went missing last year in the UK were together they would fill Wembley Stadium – twice.

The number of children we are desperately searching for increased by 60 per cent this year. We have the means to help far more children.

However our team is absolutely stretched to capacity. If we don't urgently raise more funds, this year alone hundreds of vulnerable children will not be found.'

She said the fundraising event was made possible thanks to the support of players of the People's Postcode Lottery, Clear Channel and Royal Mail.

The event took place at the Corinthia Hotel in central London in front of guests including Sir Trevor McDonald, Fiona Phillips and actress Monica Dolan.
To support the appeal, visit the campaign page.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3905944/Maybe-tomorrow-lead-Madeleine-Kate-McCann-says-day-brings-fresh-hope-daughter-joins-forces-Alice-Gross-s-mother-new-charity-appeal.html#ixzz4P8hMpn7K
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline misty

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2241 on: November 05, 2016, 05:20:59 PM »
Just saying,

A lot of Jewish names there misty. 

Names 1,2,4, and 5 have Jewish elements.  Am not sure about number 3

Nothing to do with being Jewish, Sadie. The last 3 names on the list were children who had wandered. Two were found alive & one dead. The whereabouts of 1 & 2 are currently unknown.

Offline mercury

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2242 on: November 06, 2016, 09:48:13 PM »
Roots of names and history are much more important in this case than you would ever believe.

Hopefully time will prove it to you.

In your head maybe
Otherwise provide the evidence

Offline sadie

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2243 on: November 06, 2016, 11:51:47 PM »
In your head maybe
Otherwise provide the evidence

No need. 
If I am right then time, hopefully, will prove it to you.

Offline G-Unit

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2244 on: November 08, 2016, 02:43:03 PM »
The UK's finest make a mess of things again;

Numerous errors were made in Scotland Yard's investigation into paedophile allegations against VIPs, an independent review has found.
The decision to abandon Operation Midland should have been taken "much earlier", Sir Richard Henriques said.
He found "grave" errors in the handling of historical sex crime probes against high profile figures.
Five officers have been referred to the Independent Police Complaints Commission as a result.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37912886
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2245 on: November 08, 2016, 03:13:32 PM »
The UK's finest make a mess of things again;

Numerous errors were made in Scotland Yard's investigation into paedophile allegations against VIPs, an independent review has found.
The decision to abandon Operation Midland should have been taken "much earlier", Sir Richard Henriques said.
He found "grave" errors in the handling of historical sex crime probes against high profile figures.
Five officers have been referred to the Independent Police Complaints Commission as a result.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37912886

I wonder if that is because of prejudice ?
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Offline misty

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2246 on: November 08, 2016, 05:32:47 PM »
The UK's finest make a mess of things again;

Numerous errors were made in Scotland Yard's investigation into paedophile allegations against VIPs, an independent review has found.
The decision to abandon Operation Midland should have been taken "much earlier", Sir Richard Henriques said.
He found "grave" errors in the handling of historical sex crime probes against high profile figures.
Five officers have been referred to the Independent Police Complaints Commission as a result.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37912886

Any true victims must be as sickened by the review's findings as the officers who are being investigated for doing what must have been a very difficult job.

Offline Brietta

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2247 on: November 08, 2016, 06:04:46 PM »
Any true victims must be as sickened by the review's findings as the officers who are being investigated for doing what must have been a very difficult job.

The review found 43 failings in Operation Midland, including believing the complainant, a man known as "Nick", for too long; one officer announcing that Nick's claims were "credible and true"; and applying for search warrants with flawed information.

The Met have confirmed that Nick is now being investigated for allegedly attempting to pervert the course of justice.

Sir Richard said: "The principal cause of the many failures in this investigation was poor judgement and a failure to accurately evaluate known facts and to react to them.

"A major contributing factor was the culture that 'victims' must be believed."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37912886

I think the danger here must lie in the possibility that there will be a huge backwards step which will again make it difficult for real victims of historical abuse to come forward.

Quote
The "UK's finest" made numerous errors in the investigation into accusations of VIP paedophiles ... an independent review has determined exactly what those mistakes were - they will be learned from and steps taken to reduce the chance of similar future occurrences.

Five heads have rolled.

What sort of review was conducted into the initial inquiry into Madeleine McCann's disappearance and how many heads rolled as a result?
None, that I can recall.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2248 on: November 08, 2016, 06:37:15 PM »
The review found 43 failings in Operation Midland, including believing the complainant, a man known as "Nick", for too long; one officer announcing that Nick's claims were "credible and true"; and applying for search warrants with flawed information.

The Met have confirmed that Nick is now being investigated for allegedly attempting to pervert the course of justice.

Sir Richard said: "The principal cause of the many failures in this investigation was poor judgement and a failure to accurately evaluate known facts and to react to them.

"A major contributing factor was the culture that 'victims' must be believed."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37912886

I think the danger here must lie in the possibility that there will be a huge backwards step which will again make it difficult for real victims of historical abuse to come forward.

Quote
The "UK's finest" made numerous errors in the investigation into accusations of VIP paedophiles ... an independent review has determined exactly what those mistakes were - they will be learned from and steps taken to reduce the chance of similar future occurrences.

Five heads have rolled.

What sort of review was conducted into the initial inquiry into Madeleine McCann's disappearance and how many heads rolled as a result?
None, that I can recall.

I posted the story because some people's hero-worship of the Metropolitan Police is incomprehensible to me. They are human beings and make mistakes as we all do. If they fail to do their jobs properly they are disciplined.

I have no idea why you think there should have been a review into the initial inquiry into Madeleine McCann's disappearance. According to José de Magalhaes e Menezes;

In summary, it is notorious that the PJ spared no efforts in the sense of making exceptional technical, human and financial means available to find the child and to discover the truth of facts
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/LEGAL_SUMMARY.htm
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2249 on: November 08, 2016, 08:15:04 PM »
The review found 43 failings in Operation Midland, including believing the complainant, a man known as "Nick", for too long; one officer announcing that Nick's claims were "credible and true"; and applying for search warrants with flawed information.

The Met have confirmed that Nick is now being investigated for allegedly attempting to pervert the course of justice.

Sir Richard said: "The principal cause of the many failures in this investigation was poor judgement and a failure to accurately evaluate known facts and to react to them.

"A major contributing factor was the culture that 'victims' must be believed."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37912886

I think the danger here must lie in the possibility that there will be a huge backwards step which will again make it difficult for real victims of historical abuse to come forward.

Quote
The "UK's finest" made numerous errors in the investigation into accusations of VIP paedophiles ... an independent review has determined exactly what those mistakes were - they will be learned from and steps taken to reduce the chance of similar future occurrences.

Five heads have rolled.

What sort of review was conducted into the initial inquiry into Madeleine McCann's disappearance and how many heads rolled as a result?
None, that I can recall.

Five heads have rolled? Stretching a point aren't we?
The report says:
"Five officers have been referred to the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) following the review".
No mention of the findings of the review by the IPCC or even if it has taken place let alone a punishment as a result.
« Last Edit: November 08, 2016, 08:30:08 PM by Eleanor »
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