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Alfie

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Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2700 on: May 01, 2017, 12:54:50 PM »
You can say what you like and I will comment on it every time unless it adds to the debate.

You assume there was only one diary begun after M's disappearance. Perhaps there were two of them, one of which recorded her thoughts and feelings before the event.
Now you are doing the assuming.  Any evidence for this speculation?  If the diary is incriminating why aren't the 'missing' incriminating passages mentioned in Amaral's book?  He missed a trick there didn't he?!  Perhaps he's saving it up for Volume 2.  Talking of which....we were promised his new book at the end of April... &%+((£

Offline Eleanor

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2701 on: May 01, 2017, 12:55:26 PM »
You can say what you like and I will comment on it every time unless it adds to the debate.

You assume there was only one diary begun after M's disappearance. Perhaps there were two of them, one of which recorded her thoughts and feelings before the event.

Copies of which were ordered by a Portuguese Judge to be destroyed after they were unlawfully taken.  So we won't ever know what was true or untrue.  But somehow were leaked to The Media.

Offline Brietta

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2702 on: May 01, 2017, 02:00:10 PM »
I totally agree Brie that everyone has a legal right to remain silent and that right is enshrined in Law but by the same token an investigator has the right to interpret such conduct in any way they choose depending on the circumstances.

Gerry McCann felt able to answer all the questions put to him yet his wife took the legal option and refused to answer. Given that the police were perfectly within their rights to question them as suspects and parents of a missing child does it not appear strange if not borderline sinister that a mother should display such arrogance?

My own view is that Kate should have played along with the police and answered everything fully and in great detail and in the end they would have got the message.  Kindness always achieves so much more than intransigence.

Having looked at the questions, I firmly believe that had Kate McCann answered the questions put to her there would have been supplementary questions the answers to which would have been used by the Policia Judiciaria to incriminate her.

You better than anyone knows how it works.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Benice

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2703 on: May 01, 2017, 03:21:21 PM »
Why play their game then if it can only end up looking bad for you?  Suppose Kate really struggled with the kids, suppose they were bad sleepers, suppose she had often been at her wit's end - suppose she admitted all this to the police?  She has handed them motive on a plate, even if this lack of ability to cope had nothing whatsoever to do with MAdeleine's disappearance.

IMO that is exactly what they were trying to do i.e. prove that Kate had not bonded with Madeleine and didn't care about her - in fact she was more of a nuisance to her than anything else.       Didn't they do a similar job on Leanora Cipriano?     

The fact that they treated  newspaper tittle tattle, gossip and rumour  as serious evidence on which to base questions is what I found to be so jaw-dropping.

The question -   ''What does 'We let her down' mean'' was positively cringeworthy IMO -  when all they had to do was ask one of the UK police officers who had been working alongside them for months on end.

If that and other questions was a mark of their professionalism then it left a lot to be desired IMO.   But then what can you expect from policemen who claimed that it was a dream which changed the whole direction of this case.

The best decision Kate ever made IMO was to claim her right as an arguido not to reply. 
AIMHO



The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2704 on: May 01, 2017, 06:30:18 PM »
IMO that is exactly what they were trying to do i.e. prove that Kate had not bonded with Madeleine and didn't care about her - in fact she was more of a nuisance to her than anything else.       Didn't they do a similar job on Leanora Cipriano?     

The fact that they treated  newspaper tittle tattle, gossip and rumour  as serious evidence on which to base questions is what I found to be so jaw-dropping.

The question -   ''What does 'We let her down' mean'' was positively cringeworthy IMO -  when all they had to do was ask one of the UK police officers who had been working alongside them for months on end.

If that and other questions was a mark of their professionalism then it left a lot to be desired IMO.   But then what can you expect from policemen who claimed that it was a dream which changed the whole direction of this case.

The best decision Kate ever made IMO was to claim her right as an arguido not to reply. 
AIMHO
Given that it moved the investigation not a jot further forward, I disagree.

It impeded a chance to find out what happened to Madeleine.

It left Kate with a legacy of 'no comment', which further damaged her standing in Portugal.

It was a major own goal.

IMO
What's up, old man?

Offline Brietta

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2705 on: May 01, 2017, 06:43:43 PM »
Given that it moved the investigation not a jot further forward, I disagree.

It impeded a chance to find out what happened to Madeleine.

It left Kate with a legacy of 'no comment', which further damaged her standing in Portugal.

It was a major own goal.

IMO

I'm curious.
In what way would 'not answering' the 48 questions have impeded the chance to find Madeleine?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Alfie

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Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2706 on: May 01, 2017, 06:44:59 PM »
IMO that is exactly what they were trying to do i.e. prove that Kate had not bonded with Madeleine and didn't care about her - in fact she was more of a nuisance to her than anything else.       Didn't they do a similar job on Leanora Cipriano?     

The fact that they treated  newspaper tittle tattle, gossip and rumour  as serious evidence on which to base questions is what I found to be so jaw-dropping.

The question -   ''What does 'We let her down' mean'' was positively cringeworthy IMO -  when all they had to do was ask one of the UK police officers who had been working alongside them for months on end.

If that and other questions was a mark of their professionalism then it left a lot to be desired IMO.   But then what can you expect from policemen who claimed that it was a dream which changed the whole direction of this case.

The best decision Kate ever made IMO was to claim her right as an arguido not to reply. 
AIMHO
Quite.  There is not a single thing Kate could have said that would have helped the PJ to find Madeleine.  They were barking up the wrong tree and nothing Kate could have replied to those dumbass questions would have changed that. 

Offline Eleanor

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2707 on: May 01, 2017, 06:47:52 PM »

Those questions will go down in the history of infamy.

Offline Erngath

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2708 on: May 01, 2017, 06:56:47 PM »
I'm curious.
In what way would 'not answering' the 48 questions have impeded the chance to find Madeleine?

I am curious too.
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline slartibartfast

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2709 on: May 01, 2017, 07:07:58 PM »
I'm curious.
In what way would 'not answering' the 48 questions have impeded the chance to find Madeleine?

Well not answering hasn't helped find her.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Alfie

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Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2710 on: May 01, 2017, 07:15:23 PM »
Well not answering hasn't helped find her.
Gerry answered his questions - how did that help exactly?  Perhaps you could explain how answering any of those idiotic 48 questions would have helped. 

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2711 on: May 01, 2017, 07:20:51 PM »
I'm curious.
In what way would 'not answering' the 48 questions have impeded the chance to find Madeleine?
In what way does 'no comment' impede an investigation in the UK?  It denies the police access to information.  It suggests to the police that they are on the track of a guilty party.

Both negatives if Madeleine was to get justice.
What's up, old man?

stephen25000

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Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2712 on: May 01, 2017, 07:24:12 PM »
Gerry answered his questions - how did that help exactly?  Perhaps you could explain how answering any of those idiotic 48 questions would have helped.

Consistency.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2713 on: May 01, 2017, 09:06:31 PM »
In what way does 'no comment' impede an investigation in the UK?  It denies the police access to information.  It suggests to the police that they are on the track of a guilty party.

Both negatives if Madeleine was to get justice.

are you saying that kate not answerring the questions suggests she is guilty ...
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Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2714 on: May 01, 2017, 09:27:17 PM »
are you saying that kate not answerring the questions suggests she is guilty ..
Didn't say that, did I?

But if you have to distort my post to make a point,

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« Last Edit: May 01, 2017, 09:38:40 PM by Eleanor »
What's up, old man?