General discussion about the latest news (not search related)

[G-Unit]

I think that is a denial of reality....both your posts and gunits are attacking the posters...which is a form of goading

Alfie accused me of desperation because I pointed out the incorrect details in the article. I replyed by returning the compliment. 

[Robittybob1]

Alfie accused me of desperation because I pointed out the incorrect details in the article. I replyed by returning the compliment. 

And there are no rules about returning compliments or is there?

[Brietta]

I think it's the height of arragance to believe you know more about something that someone who was actually there and who actually met the McCanns and who has followed this case closely from day one.  "Know-nothing"?  What incredible arrogance.

At least he met and spoke to the McCanns before taking out his chisel to get to work on his 'tablet of stone' opinion piece, which is something the senior investigating officer didn't bother to do.

Amaral relied on the second hand reports of his officers and witness statements which fitted his prejudices.

Which is no doubt fine if it concerns the evidence ... but when it reduces immeasurable grief into the tittle tattle of 'praying Arabs' it is hardly objective.

[Benice]

I think I will drop Jon Clarke an email so he can read this exchange.  Perhaps he'd like to defend himself agsinst accusations of knowing nothing.

His times may be inaccurate (due to fallibility of memory) but according to David Payne, not only did Yvonne Mitchell turn up at around 9.30 (according to her), but  Robert Murat and a 'journalist' also arrived at some stage  during that morning while they were waiting to be taken to the police station  Could this be Jon Clarke? 

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1485 "And then you spoke to Yvonne MARTIN around about nine o' clock you said.'
 Reply "Mm.'
1485 "What did you do up until nine o' clock''
 Reply "Err I remember we were hang, you know I was outside with, you know, with Kate quite a bit err just basically looking, seeing whether anything was happening, err outside, err I say there was, there was the local report and the news journalist who came up as well at some stage, then err then there was a correspondence between you know, with Robert MURAT and the err Police who err arrived and you know trying to find out what was going on. And then, you know, obviously we were gonna be going to the err Portim' Police Station and then you know we were waiting obviously for that to happen and err that's about it really.'

[stephen25000]

Thank you very much for this.  It is a true classic.  It was very enjoyable, unfortunately for all the wrong reasons.

Another article and total and pure rollocks.

[Brietta]

His times may be inaccurate (due to fallibility of memory) but according to David Payne, not only did Yvonne Mitchell turn up at around 9.30 (according to her), but  Robert Murat and a 'journalist' also arrived at some stage  during that morning while they were waiting to be taken to the police station  Could this be Jon Clarke? 

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1485 "And then you spoke to Yvonne MARTIN around about nine o' clock you said.'
 Reply "Mm.'
1485 "What did you do up until nine o' clock''
 Reply "Err I remember we were hang, you know I was outside with, you know, with Kate quite a bit err just basically looking, seeing whether anything was happening, err outside, err I say there was, there was the local report and the news journalist who came up as well at some stage, then err then there was a correspondence between you know, with Robert MURAT and the err Police who err arrived and you know trying to find out what was going on. And then, you know, obviously we were gonna be going to the err Portim' Police Station and then you know we were waiting obviously for that to happen and err that's about it really.'

I've not seen any other journalist claiming to have spoken to Kate and Gerry on the 4th.  So that looks very much like verification of Jon Clarke's version of events.

[stephen25000]

I've not seen any other journalist claiming to have spoken to Kate and Gerry on the 4th.  So that looks very much like verification of Jon Clarke's version of events.

So talking to someone, could rule them out.

Right, got it. *&*%£

[Brietta]

Another article and total and pure rollocks.

I think your opinion might carry some weight ... if you explained it a bit more ... rather than trotting out the latest put down on everything which dents whatever theory you espouse.

[Brietta]

So talking to someone, could rule them out.

Right, got it. *&*%£

Try looking at the bigger picture.

[Eleanor]

It's a form of goading.

In which case the same could be said for the opposite.

[stephen25000]

Try looking at the bigger picture.

Your bigger picture is abduction.

Doesn't wash with me.

[G-Unit]

His times may be inaccurate (due to fallibility of memory) but according to David Payne, not only did Yvonne Mitchell turn up at around 9.30 (according to her), but  Robert Murat and a 'journalist' also arrived at some stage  during that morning while they were waiting to be taken to the police station  Could this be Jon Clarke? 

Quote
1485 "And then you spoke to Yvonne MARTIN around about nine o' clock you said.'
 Reply "Mm.'
1485 "What did you do up until nine o' clock''
 Reply "Err I remember we were hang, you know I was outside with, you know, with Kate quite a bit err just basically looking, seeing whether anything was happening, err outside, err I say there was, there was the local report and the news journalist who came up as well at some stage, then err then there was a correspondence between you know, with Robert MURAT and the err Police who err arrived and you know trying to find out what was going on. And then, you know, obviously we were gonna be going to the err Portim' Police Station and then you know we were waiting obviously for that to happen and err that's about it really.'

He admits he didn't arrive until 11.45 am, by which time the McCanns and the other interviewees among their friends were gone from Luz.

[Alfie]

Alfie accused me of desperation because I pointed out the incorrect details in the article. I replyed by returning the compliment. 

Thanks you're very kind.  Perhaps you could explain why a few (very) trivial details in the journo's first hand account make this article worthless and he a "know-nothing"?   It strikes me that you are determined to pour scorn on this article -  but why?  Could it be that it is for the simple reason that the author firmly believes the McCanns did not hide their child's body?  Surely he's entitled to an opinion and surely you respect his right to this opinion, don't you?

[Alfie]

He admits he didn't arrive until 11.45 am, by which time the McCanns and the other interviewees among their friends were gone from Luz.

So either he's mistaken about the time or he's point blank lying.  You seem determined to draw one conclusion over another - why is that?

[Brietta]

Your bigger picture is abduction.

Doesn't wash with me.

So you already 'know' what happened?
One wonders why the Policia Judiciaria and Scotland Yard have placed such store in their continuing investigations when all they have to do is ask you.