The Smithman e-fits

[Brietta]

Has anyone considered a connection to the IRA?  Gerry being one of the Irish now being involved with the British Government. Could there be a connection?

I do not believe there is the remotest IRA connection. Particularly since the Good Friday or Belfast Agreement effectively bringing peace to Northern Ireland had been ratified in 1998.

[Carana]

I would be interested in any reason Mr Smith would have for saying 60/80% was not true, who would benefit?

What do you mean?

[Miss Taken Identity]

What do you mean?

I mean there doesn't seem to be a reason for MR Smith to make this story up.

[Robittybob1]

I mean there doesn't seem to be a reason for MR Smith to make this story up.

We would have no idea who Martin Smith knows and what he does in PdL.

[misty]

Taken from a post today on YouKnowWhere

From the Metropolitan Police
 
Dear Mr Bxxxxx
 
Freedom of Information Request Reference No: 2018030000241
 
I write in connection with your request for information which was received
by the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) on 03/03/2018.

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QUESTION
4 Two efits of a person suspected of being Madeleine's abductor were  shown on a TV programme, Crimewatch, on 14 October 2013:
A  On what date did Operation Grange first receive these efits?
B  From whom?
C  Is Operation Grange still seeking the public's help in identifying
this man?
 
ANSWER: These efits were received by the Operation Grange team in September 2008 as part of a dossier of material handed to the MPS by private  investigators that had been working on the case.  The MPS will not comment on whether identifications have or have not been made however the efits do  not form part of any current appeal.
 
Should you have any further enquiries concerning this matter, please contact me on 0207 161 3583 or via email at [email address],
quoting the reference number above.
 
Yours sincerely
 
David Edwards
Information Rights Unit

[barrier]

Operation Grange was set up in 2011 was it not so what are they on about with 2008?

ANSWER: These efits were received by the Operation Grange team in September 2008 as part of a dossier of material handed to the MPS by private  investigators that had been working on the case.  The MPS will not comment on whether identifications have or have not been made however the efits do  not form part of any current appeal.

[Alice Purjorick]

Taken from a post today on YouKnowWhere

From the Metropolitan Police
 
Dear Mr Bxxxxx
 
Freedom of Information Request Reference No: 2018030000241
 
I write in connection with your request for information which was received
by the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) on 03/03/2018.

snipped
QUESTION
4 Two efits of a person suspected of being Madeleine's abductor were  shown on a TV programme, Crimewatch, on 14 October 2013:
A  On what date did Operation Grange first receive these efits?
B  From whom?
C  Is Operation Grange still seeking the public's help in identifying
this man?
 
ANSWER: These efits were received by the Operation Grange team in September 2008 as part of a dossier of material handed to the MPS by private  investigators that had been working on the case.  The MPS will not comment on whether identifications have or have not been made however the efits do  not form part of any current appeal.
 
Should you have any further enquiries concerning this matter, please contact me on 0207 161 3583 or via email at [email address],
quoting the reference number above.
 
Yours sincerely
 
David Edwards
Information Rights Unit

Time travellers?
So Oakley were axed in August 2008 then handed over their files tout de suite to the MPS, who at that stage were steering well clear of the case, rather than hand it to the Portuguese on whose soil the crime if any was committed ?.
One wonders what Oakley found that prompted them to contact the MPS ?

Curiouser and curiouser

[Alice Purjorick]

Operation Grange was set up in 2011 was it not so what are they on about with 2008?

Posts crossed 

[barrier]

Posts crossed 

Just seen that.

[Carana]

Time travellers?
So Oakley were axed in August 2008 then handed over their files tout de suite to the MPS, who at that stage were steering well clear of the case, rather than hand it to the Portuguese on whose soil the crime if any was committed ?.
One wonders what Oakley found that prompted them to contact the MPS ?

Curiouser and curiouser

The e-fits were also sent to the PJ, I seem to recall from the statement rebutting the ST article.

[barrier]

The e-fits were also sent to the PJ, I seem to recall from the statement rebutting the ST article.

Indeed they did but it also says that the dossier was handed to the mps in 2011 which is completely at odds with what the met say in a FOI reply.

[Carana]

Indeed they did but it also says that the dossier was handed to the mps in 2011 which is completely at odds with what the met say in a FOI reply.

It obviously couldn't have been Op Grange, but whoever answered may have simply seen a receipt date stamp on checking their files.

They might even have been sent initially to LP, who passed them on.

[Alice Purjorick]

It obviously couldn't have been Op Grange, but whoever answered may have simply seen a receipt date stamp on checking their files.

They might even have been sent initially to LP, who passed them on.

It is quite clear what was said in response to the FOI request. There is no room for maneuver so one presumes they meant what they said.
Are you suggesting they did not really mean it and we should believe something we have to interpolate ?

[Miss Taken Identity]

Taken from a post today on YouKnowWhere

From the Metropolitan Police
 
Dear Mr Bxxxxx
 
Freedom of Information Request Reference No: 2018030000241
 
I write in connection with your request for information which was received
by the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) on 03/03/2018.

snipped
QUESTION
4 Two efits of a person suspected of being Madeleine's abductor were  shown on a TV programme, Crimewatch, on 14 October 2013:
A  On what date did Operation Grange first receive these efits?
B  From whom?
C  Is Operation Grange still seeking the public's help in identifying
this man?
 
ANSWER: These efits were received by the Operation Grange team in September 2008 as part of a dossier of material handed to the MPS by private  investigators that had been working on the case.  The MPS will not comment on whether identifications have or have not been made however the efits do  not form part of any current appeal.

Should you have any further enquiries concerning this matter, please contact me on 0207 161 3583 or via email at [email address],
quoting the reference number above.
 
Yours sincerely
 
David Edwards
Information Rights Unit

In red bold... sooooo this means? SMith man has come forward OR they know or suspect they know who Smithman is... hmmmm Oooh I say...

[Robittybob1]

When did Operation Grange commence?  Is that the question?