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Offline Eleanor

Re: Could Madeleine have been abducted by boat?
« Reply #45 on: February 20, 2018, 09:20:18 PM »
You could have made a good crim.  They are all possible scenarios. all for the purpose of abducting a living girl.

Elementary, my dear Watson.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Could Madeleine have been abducted by boat?
« Reply #46 on: February 20, 2018, 09:22:39 PM »
Elementary, my dear Watson.
Or a great detective.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Could Madeleine have been abducted by boat?
« Reply #47 on: February 20, 2018, 09:26:46 PM »
I think that is correct. So the PJ had an e-mail from a concerned citizen and they may or may not have had a statement from LP.

They had another 'continuation statement' from DC Markley. A friend of a friend of Kate's Aunt and Uncle had a vision that Madeleine was on a boat in Lagos Marina. This person set off to Portugal, visited the Marina and identified and photographed the 'Shearwater' as the boat in her vision.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/BOATS_VISION.htm
OK there were people suggesting that it was Kate and Gerry carrying/dragging their daughter at 6 AM on the 4th near the Lagos Marina, but if it was would they be directing the PJ down there by relating that vision to the PJ?
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Could Madeleine have been abducted by boat?
« Reply #48 on: February 20, 2018, 09:31:36 PM »
OK there were people suggesting that it was Kate and Gerry carrying/dragging their daughter at 6 AM on the 4th near the Lagos Marina, but if it was would they be directing the PJ down there by relating that vision to the PJ?

This is hardly likely, is it.  More holes than one of those Swiss cheeses, so I won't bother to point them out.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Could Madeleine have been abducted by boat?
« Reply #49 on: February 20, 2018, 09:50:57 PM »
OK there were people suggesting that it was Kate and Gerry carrying/dragging their daughter at 6 AM on the 4th near the Lagos Marina, but if it was would they be directing the PJ down there by relating that vision to the PJ?

Were there? People have suggested all sorts of things.
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Could Madeleine have been abducted by boat?
« Reply #50 on: February 20, 2018, 10:10:04 PM »
Were there? People have suggested all sorts of things.

All of which are simples if you say them quick like.... 8(0(*

All boats arriving from abroad must contact either a port or marina office.

In the main, most marinas require you to come ashore with passports, ship's papers and insurance documents (whether you are in the marina or anchored off).


Or risk a nasty encounter with the odd Coast Guard Cutter or two.

http://www.noonsite.com/Countries/Portugal?rc=Formalities
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Could Madeleine have been abducted by boat?
« Reply #51 on: February 20, 2018, 10:13:35 PM »
All of which are simples if you say them quick like.... 8(0(*

All boats arriving from abroad must contact either a port or marina office.

In the main, most marinas require you to come ashore with passports, ship's papers and insurance documents (whether you are in the marina or anchored off).


Or risk a nasty encounter with the odd Coast Guard Cutter or two.

http://www.noonsite.com/Countries/Portugal?rc=Formalities
That's for boats, arriving from abroad and would not affect boats cruising around the, coast

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Could Madeleine have been abducted by boat?
« Reply #52 on: February 20, 2018, 10:25:51 PM »
That's for boats, arriving from abroad and would not affect boats cruising around the, coast

And?
continue to the logical conclusion allowing for the fact you cannot tie/anchor up just because you fancy it.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Could Madeleine have been abducted by boat?
« Reply #53 on: February 20, 2018, 10:28:54 PM »
And?
continue to the logical conclusion allowing for the fact you cannot tie/anchor up just because you fancy it.


Doesn't have to be the marina ..Could be the beach .

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: Could Madeleine have been abducted by boat?
« Reply #54 on: February 20, 2018, 10:42:12 PM »
It's not the Pizza place where Amy worked though. That was Pizza Real, Rua da Praia in Luz.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GEORGE_BURKE_BROOKS.htm
Thus far, I am getting two stories.

There is George of Pizza Hut, Lagos, who allegedly witnessed this sighting.  The verifiable details stack up - train station, marina.  I did not know there was a Pizza Hut in Lagos, but I am not a fan of Pizza Hut.

Then there is the tale of the conversation about this sighting in Pizza Real, in Luz.  I have no reason at this point in time to doubt this conversation took place i.e. that the alleged sighting was discussed in a Luz pizza joint, by Amy and a McCann friend.

From there, the Luz convo seems to have flashed to LP, who then faxed it to the PJ, who checked it out (presumably).

This leaves me with 2 queries.  The first is how it got flashed to LP so quickly.  The other is how George of Burgau got sucked into the quagmire.

Perhaps MW was not yet providing food to the McCann entourage.
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Could Madeleine have been abducted by boat?
« Reply #55 on: February 20, 2018, 10:46:03 PM »

Doesn't have to be the marina ..Could be the beach .

So your logical conclusion is being stuck on a beach ?
Try working it through from alpa to omega then post it in one hit.
Hint:
First work out what the objective is.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Could Madeleine have been abducted by boat?
« Reply #56 on: February 20, 2018, 10:47:57 PM »
So your logical conclusion is being stuck on a beach ?
Try working it through from alpa to omega then post it in one hit.
Hint:
First work out what the objective is.

I think a small clue to the objective is in the thread title... Or maybe I'm way off, the mark

Offline sadie

Re: Could Madeleine have been abducted by boat?
« Reply #57 on: February 20, 2018, 10:58:32 PM »
Could that boat, or any boat have gone to the area off Luz Beach and picked up Madeleine from there?  Smithman was heading in that direction.
Exactly, it could have been heading towards a pick up off the little rock beach adjacent and west of the Fortezela.

The beach that vanishes at high tide but has a deep inlet into the hillside between two massive rocks ...  and a tunnel that had been skilfully hidden when Heri visited.

Offline sadie

Re: Could Madeleine have been abducted by boat?
« Reply #58 on: February 20, 2018, 11:05:30 PM »
OK but doesn't your theory have the same problem then too.  If Madeleine went to Porta did she get there by boat or rail?
If this George Brooks sighting has anything to do with it a good assumption would be to think they needed a boat or the rail, but not a road vehicle as they likely had one of these to get from PdL to Lagos in the first place.
Rob, I dont actually think that Madeleine went there; I amjust going along with your theory, in case.

I think she was taken North towards Porto

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Could Madeleine have been abducted by boat?
« Reply #59 on: February 21, 2018, 12:04:51 AM »
Rob, I dont actually think that Madeleine went there; I amjust going along with your theory, in case.

I think she was taken North towards Porto
Sorry that is where I meant Porto not Porta.  How does she get to Porto?  By road rail or sea?
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