Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence

[Mr Gray]

As you were asked - you do it then show us the statistics!

As you are a moderator remove the ad hom attack
As I said... Faith madebthe claim... She should start the discussion supporting her claim... And then we can discuss it..

But... If a child is put to bed in it's own house.. And in the morning found murdered... Statistically is it more likely the parents were involved than a stranger

[Robittybob1]

As you are a moderator remove the ad hom attack
As I said... Faith madebthe claim... She should start the discussion supporting her claim... And then we can discuss it..

But... If a child is put to bed in it's own house.. And in the morning found murdered... Statistically is it more likely the parents were involved than a stranger

You had other posters backing you up.  So be happy with that. 
Faith does not follow orders.  I could start it or you for I'd love to get the real stats behind cases like this.  As I said the other day Yvonne Martin's experience of 99.9% due to the family seemed rather high.

[Mr Gray]

You had other posters backing you up.  So be happy with that. 
Faith does not follow orders.  I could start it or you for I'd love to get the real stats behind cases like this.  As I said the other day Yvonne Martin's experience of 99.9% due to the family seemed rather high.

And I do not follow orders but it seems ad hom posts directed towards me, are allowed on the forum
You didn't answer the question in my post
What is the 99% Re martin all about

[Mr Gray]

If we are talking stastistics it more probable that Madeleine was harmed by her parents than a stranger.

Could you provide some proof of this... It's absolute rubbish

[Robittybob1]

And I do not follow orders but it seems ad hom posts directed towards me, are allowed on the forum
You didn't answer the question in my post
What is the 99% Re martin all about

Did you not follow the thread on Yvonne Martin? 

As far as I am concerned you did not ask me a question?

[Mr Gray]

Did you not follow the thread on Yvonne Martin? 

As far as I am concerned you did not ask me a question?

See post 322 directed to you
I followed the martin thread but don't recall the significance of the 99%...could you explain

[Robittybob1]

See post 322 directed to you
I followed the martin thread but don't recall the significance of the 99%...could you explain

The text of 322 "As you are a moderator remove the ad hom attack
As I said... Faith made the claim... She should start the discussion supporting her claim... And then we can discuss it..

But... If a child is put to bed in it's own house.. And in the morning found murdered... Statistically is it more likely the parents were involved than a stranger"

I'm not allowed to delete or edit post (other than strict situations).

You made a claim about stats but stats are based on an analysis of data.  Where is your data?

[Wonderfulspam]

I know you would

Delineate the "plenty of evidence" then.

I've just read some of this thread,

So what is the evidence for abduction?
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=4142.0

The evidence appears to be the fact that Maddie is missing & 'not suspects'.

I noticed some posts by ferryman in there, whatever happened to him?

[Robittybob1]

I've just read some of this thread,

So what is the evidence for abduction?
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=4142.0

The evidence appears to be the fact that Maddie is missing & 'not suspects'.

I noticed some posts by ferryman in there, whatever happened to him?

He is still around. ( I getting confused with Pathfinder73 sorry)

[jassi]

He is still around.

But thankfully no longer on here

[Brietta]

We are talking statistics not the actual cause of this case in particular.

In my opinion the statistics are used by some as 'evidence' to 'prove' a case ... which in my opinion indicates a total misconception regarding what constitutes evidence ... as well as a misuse of statistics.

Every other day there are cases of parental abduction reported in the media ... usually ending with the bodies of one parent and the children s/he has murdered being found in a beauty spot and the body of the other parent lying murdered at home.

In my opinion what the statistics do show is how rare stranger abductions are ... but they are not evidence which proves they never happen.
In fact what they are evidence proven by their rarity ... that the Tapas nine were lulled into a false sense of security before Madeleine became a statistic among children who vanish without trace.

[Mr Gray]

The text of 322 "As you are a moderator remove the ad hom attack
As I said... Faith made the claim... She should start the discussion supporting her claim... And then we can discuss it..

But... If a child is put to bed in it's own house.. And in the morning found murdered... Statistically is it more likely the parents were involved than a stranger"

I'm not allowed to delete or edit post (other than strict situations).

You made a claim about stats but stats are based on an analysis of data.  Where is your data?

Faith made a, post Re statistics which I contradicted...it seems no one had asked her to provide any numbers... If you don't want to answer the question I posted Re statistics then fine... The debate can not go any further

[Mr Gray]

In my opinion the statistics are used by some as 'evidence' to 'prove' a case ... which in my opinion indicates a total misconception regarding what constitutes evidence ... as well as a misuse of statistics.

Every other day there are cases of parental abduction reported in the media ... usually ending with the bodies of one parent and the children s/he has murdered being found in a beauty spot and the body of the other parent lying murdered at home.

In my opinion what the statistics do show is how rare stranger abductions are ... but they are not evidence which proves they never happen.
In fact what they are evidence proven by their rarity ... that the Tapas nine were lulled into a false sense of security before Madeleine became a statistic among children who vanish without trace.

Faiths claim that statistically the McCann's, are involved is patently absurd but posters don't seem to want to address it

[Mr Gray]

Statistics are like the alerts.... They can point the investigation in a certain direction.. But cannot be used as evidence against a subject

[slartibartfast]

It is an observation that you keep claiming that there is evidence supporting innocence but then always fail to provide it. You appear to want to redefine what evidence is depending on the argument you are having at the time.

Time to put up.