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Offline faithlilly

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #390 on: March 07, 2018, 06:13:35 PM »
I think that's, a pretty damning condemnation of the alerts.. Don't you

So no cite ?
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #391 on: March 07, 2018, 06:14:09 PM »
If I've said little it's not enough  for you to form an opinion... What particularly
I can form an opinion whenever I like.
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Offline John

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #392 on: March 07, 2018, 06:20:14 PM »
Abduction can be proved on the balance of possibilities, taking all the evidence into account.. Imo

I don't think abduction can be proved at all.  The only reliable evidence which exists indicates the child left the apartment under her own steam which might very well have resulted in an abduction thereafter.
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Offline John

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #393 on: March 07, 2018, 06:24:27 PM »
I have provided a cite that the Court of Appeal considered the dog alerts to be a valuable piece of evidence. Can you provide a cite, other than the obviously upset family, that the Scottish Criminal Cases Review Commission considered the dog’s evidence ‘unreliable’ ?

I don't think anyone should pay much attention to the SCCRC as they have no credibility whatsoever IMHO.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
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Offline kizzy

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #394 on: March 07, 2018, 06:33:19 PM »
I don't think abduction can be proved at all.  The only reliable evidence which exists indicates the child left the apartment under her own steam which might very well have resulted in an abduction thereafter.

Which would make mccanns, totally responsible.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #395 on: March 07, 2018, 06:38:55 PM »
I don't think abduction can be proved at all.  The only reliable evidence which exists indicates the child left the apartment under her own steam which might very well have resulted in an abduction thereafter.

that isnt what the portugues police...who had all the information concluded in their final report....they said that was highly unlikely

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #396 on: March 07, 2018, 06:40:10 PM »
So no cite ?

The family are quoting the report...if you want to speculate they are lying...

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #397 on: March 07, 2018, 06:40:52 PM »
I can form an opinion whenever I like.

so can I ..and I have formed an opinion of you...

Offline misty

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #398 on: March 07, 2018, 06:43:57 PM »
Which would make mccanns, totally responsible.

That's like blaming US parents for sending their children to school knowing full well they could be shot by a deranged gunman. The risk is high - 17 school shootings in the first 45 days of 2018.

Offline jassi

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #399 on: March 07, 2018, 06:47:07 PM »
That's like blaming US parents for sending their children to school knowing full well they could be shot by a deranged gunman. The risk is high - 17 school shootings in the first 45 days of 2018.

Nothing like it at all. In the shooting cases there are identified culprits, whereas there is no identified culprit in the McCann case.
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Offline misty

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #400 on: March 07, 2018, 06:51:15 PM »
Nothing like it at all. In the shooting cases there are identified culprits, whereas there is no identified culprit in the McCann case.

So the risk taken is not negligence when a perpetrator can be identified & brought to justice, despite the end result to the victim?

Offline G-Unit

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #401 on: March 07, 2018, 06:53:50 PM »
I don't misunderstand anything.... Harrison went further and said no inferences could be drawn from the alerts..
I know, what no evidential  value or reliability mean

 no evidential or intelligence reliability can be made from these alerts unless they can be confirmed with
corroborating evidence.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES.htm

What do you think that means?
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #402 on: March 07, 2018, 06:59:43 PM »
That's like blaming US parents for sending their children to school knowing full well they could be shot by a deranged gunman. The risk is high - 17 school shootings in the first 45 days of 2018.

Leaving a child home alone is a parental choice. Sending children to school is a legal requirement.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #403 on: March 07, 2018, 07:01:33 PM »
Leaving a child home alone is a parental choice. Sending children to school is a legal requirement.

sending a child to school is not  a legal requirement...just being picky

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #404 on: March 07, 2018, 07:03:31 PM »
no evidential or intelligence reliability can be made from these alerts unless they can be confirmed with
corroborating evidence.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES.htm

What do you think that means?
it means these alerts have no relaibility as evidence....what do you think it means