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Offline Lace

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #480 on: March 08, 2018, 10:27:49 AM »
Quote from: Faithlilly on March 08, 2018, 09:56:12 AM
Could you please provide a proper cite for the case quoted above ? Was a blood dog also used in the case ?

You have provided no evidence that any cadaver dog alerts to just the scent of blood. You must have found one if you believe that to be the case so please let the rest of us read it.

I took the quote from the Gilroy case.  The dog was a cadaver dog,  the handler said the dog alerted to the scent of cadaver or blood,  so that dog would alert to just blood.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #481 on: March 08, 2018, 10:28:38 AM »
Quote from: Faithlilly on March 08, 2018, 09:59:36 AM
You baulk at the word dishonesty then go on to accuse Grime of, at the least incompetence, amend at the harshes downright dishonesty.

I dont accuse grime of incompetence either..you are confused
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #482 on: March 08, 2018, 10:29:41 AM »
Quote from: Lace on March 08, 2018, 10:22:26 AM
They are just questions,   can you answer them?

You accuse the McCann's of being dishonest,   you don't seem to mind doing that.

They are not just questions. They suggest that you think there is the possibility that Grime was being dishonest.
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Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline faithlilly

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #483 on: March 08, 2018, 10:30:23 AM »
Quote from: Davel on March 08, 2018, 10:28:38 AM
I dont accuse grime of incompetence either..you are confused

I’m afraid you did and I am anything but confused.
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Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Lace

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #484 on: March 08, 2018, 10:31:10 AM »
Faithlilly here is where I found the quote. - 


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-17270117
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #485 on: March 08, 2018, 10:31:26 AM »
Quote from: G-Unit on March 08, 2018, 09:49:15 AM
David Gilroy was caught and convicted because of painstaking and detailed work by the police. Paying close attention to detail was a specialism of mine in my work; if something needed analysing in detail I used to get the job.

You make assumptions without having evidence to support them. I try very hard not to.

attention to detail is somethng I deal with every day...assessing evidence is something I deal with everyday and is something I have been taught to do...
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Offline Lace

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #486 on: March 08, 2018, 10:31:58 AM »
Quote from: Faithlilly on March 08, 2018, 10:29:41 AM
They are not just questions. They suggest that you think there is the possibility that Grime was being dishonest.

They are questions that I find puzzling,  maybe you can answer them.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #487 on: March 08, 2018, 10:32:25 AM »
Quote from: Faithlilly on March 08, 2018, 10:30:23 AM
I’m afraid you did and I am anything but confused.

then provide the cite where I did...you are not only confused but wrong
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #488 on: March 08, 2018, 10:32:53 AM »
Quote from: Lace on March 08, 2018, 10:21:02 AM
Eddie alerted to the scent of blood from the keyfob and behind the sofa.

Is that a fact or an opinion? How do you know what Eddie was alerting to?
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #489 on: March 08, 2018, 10:34:41 AM »
Quote from: Lace on March 08, 2018, 10:31:10 AM
Faithlilly here is where I found the quote. - 


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-17270117

Do you think that Suzanne is still alive ?
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Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Lace

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #490 on: March 08, 2018, 10:35:05 AM »
Quote from: G-Unit on March 08, 2018, 10:32:53 AM
Is that a fact or an opinion? How do you know what Eddie was alerting to?

What else was there?
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #491 on: March 08, 2018, 10:35:49 AM »
Quote from: Lace on March 08, 2018, 10:35:05 AM
What else was there?

Cellular matter.
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Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Lace

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #492 on: March 08, 2018, 10:38:37 AM »
Quote from: Faithlilly on March 08, 2018, 10:35:49 AM
Cellular matter.

A soup of DNA from up to five people,  hardly cadaver scent is it?
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #493 on: March 08, 2018, 10:40:36 AM »
Quote from: G-Unit on March 08, 2018, 10:32:53 AM
Is that a fact or an opinion? How do you know what Eddie was alerting to?
Does Martin Grime say, or does he just say Eddie alert to the key fob?
And since there was blood found on the key fob.  Adding 2 and 2 seems reasonable.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #494 on: March 08, 2018, 10:40:43 AM »
Quote from: G-Unit on March 08, 2018, 10:32:53 AM
Is that a fact or an opinion? How do you know what Eddie was alerting to?

no one knows...thats the whole point..even grime doesnt know
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