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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: A Simple Question.
« Reply #105 on: March 12, 2018, 11:17:05 PM »
It was clear the McCanns were going to be questioned again. It had been from the beginning of August.

So what if the press know nothing ? Why do you think they keep asking the same question ?
So you accept then that the press were able to report that the McCanns were suspects and reported as much prior to them becoming official suspects? If the press know nothing then that's probably why they keep asking the same questions, in the pursuit of new information for their articles.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: A Simple Question.
« Reply #106 on: March 12, 2018, 11:22:40 PM »
Let us not forget we were told (indirectly via the media) that the police were re-questioning Murat and Malinka (as witnesses admittedly), though going through it all again with the media attention must have felt damaging and unpleasant for them both.  Why, if the McCanns and Tapas group were being investigated, have they not been questioned since 2008, and if they have then why haven't we heard about it, as we have with Murat and Malinka? 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline faithlilly

Re: A Simple Question.
« Reply #107 on: March 12, 2018, 11:48:38 PM »
Let us not forget we were told (indirectly via the media) that the police were re-questioning Murat and Malinka (as witnesses admittedly), though going through it all again with the media attention must have felt damaging and unpleasant for them both.  Why, if the McCanns and Tapas group were being investigated, have they not been questioned since 2008, and if they have then why haven't we heard about it, as we have with Murat and Malinka?

So you believe that if the McCanns were being investigated Rowley would admit it ?
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Offline barrier

Re: A Simple Question.
« Reply #108 on: March 13, 2018, 06:58:26 AM »
Let us not forget we were told (indirectly via the media) that the police were re-questioning Murat and Malinka (as witnesses admittedly), though going through it all again with the media attention must have felt damaging and unpleasant for them both.  Why, if the McCanns and Tapas group were being investigated, have they not been questioned since 2008, and if they have then why haven't we heard about it, as we have with Murat and Malinka?
It could be addressed another way,if through the lack of reporting its indicative of the McCanns not being interviewed by SY (IMO), is it a sign of a major failing not to so?
Edit (IMO) added.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: A Simple Question.
« Reply #109 on: March 13, 2018, 07:32:47 AM »
It could be addressed another way,if through the lack of reporting its indicative of the McCanns not being interviewed by SY (IMO), is it a sign of a major failing not to so?
Edit (IMO) added.
"It could be addressed another way,if through the lack of reporting its indicative of the McCanns not being interviewed by SY (IMO), is it a sign of a major failing not to so?"  That is not a simple question.

Is it a sign of a major failing not to so?  is the question.

"if through the lack of reporting its indicative of the McCanns not being interviewed by SY"  That is some sort of condition. 
If [the condition is met] then Is it a sign of a major failing not to so?  Still an unanswerable question for the answer feeds back into the condition.  In coding that would be called a circular argument, and was not allowed.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: A Simple Question.
« Reply #110 on: March 13, 2018, 08:08:25 AM »
So you believe that if the McCanns were being investigated Rowley would admit it ?
Possibly, but more likely it would have leaked out to the media by now.  You dodged all the points I raised in my post btw.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: A Simple Question.
« Reply #111 on: March 13, 2018, 08:10:03 AM »
It could be addressed another way,if through the lack of reporting its indicative of the McCanns not being interviewed by SY (IMO), is it a sign of a major failing not to so?
Edit (IMO) added.
It would be a major failing if, having reviewed all the evidence, the police felt there was any possibility that the McCanns were responsible. 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: A Simple Question.
« Reply #112 on: March 13, 2018, 09:05:49 AM »

Ok, so, assuming the McCann's have been re-interviewed & re-investigated (but no one bothered to tell the press) sometime since 2011.

Assuming that happened, what evidence might SY have found which demonstrates to their satisfaction that the McCann's had no involvement in Madeleine's disappearance?

Or, from another angle, what evidence might they have which proves Maddie was abducted by way of criminal act by a stranger?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: A Simple Question.
« Reply #113 on: March 13, 2018, 09:35:03 AM »
Ok, so, assuming the McCann's have been re-interviewed & re-investigated (but no one bothered to tell the press) sometime since 2011.

Assuming that happened, what evidence might SY have found which demonstrates to their satisfaction that the McCann's had no involvement in Madeleine's disappearance?

Or, from another angle, what evidence might they have which proves Maddie was abducted by way of criminal act by a stranger?

It seems that is exactly  what has happened  so you need to ask SY

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: A Simple Question.
« Reply #114 on: March 13, 2018, 09:41:15 AM »
It seems that is exactly  what has happened  so you need to ask SY

Since that isn't possible, I am asking members here what they think there might be.
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Offline faithlilly

Re: A Simple Question.
« Reply #115 on: March 13, 2018, 09:48:20 AM »
Possibly, but more likely it would have leaked out to the media by now.  You dodged all the points I raised in my post btw.

I didn’t dodge the points I was simply stopping you pulling this topic further off topic.

So you think that if Rowley, or Redwood, was asked directly if the McCanns were suspects and they were they’d possibly admit it ? Really ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline faithlilly

Re: A Simple Question.
« Reply #116 on: March 13, 2018, 09:53:42 AM »
It seems that is exactly  what has happened  so you need to ask SY

Which brings us full circle. How do we know the McCanns are not suspects, because Redwood/Rowley said so. If they McCanns were suspects would Redwood/Rowley admit it ? IMO definitely not. How say you Davel ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Robittybob1

Re: A Simple Question.
« Reply #117 on: March 13, 2018, 10:24:47 AM »
It would be a major failing if, having reviewed all the evidence, the police felt there was any possibility that the McCanns were responsible.
Haven't they already done that and find the McCanns not responsible for the abduction?
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Offline Carana

Re: A Simple Question.
« Reply #118 on: March 13, 2018, 10:27:17 AM »
Not significantly.
I believe, however, the police will have an overall strategy for this sort of circumstance. Like: "we are going to give away nothing we do not want to".
The tactics for each interview will, in my opinion, be worked out on the hoof with the objective of reaching the end of the interview having not undermined the overall strategy. If the tactics used make them look daft to the uninformed layman I am sure they don't give the proverbial rat's wotsit provided the overall strategy has been preserved without compromise.
As for what the overall strategy is faites vos jeux.

edit: removed redundant word

That's not the impression I get from the strategy debrief in the Shannon case, nor from other documents / clips I've read / watched.

IMO, the aspects seem to be a) what and when to inform the media (on or off the record) about details related to the actual investigation; b) another seems to be broader in terms of public perception of the credibility of the police, and c) any impact on community relations.

We can all think of times when police forces (anywhere) have had egg-on-face situations for all sorts of reasons. I presume that a goal is to minimise them.

If that's the case, I can't think of a logical reason why the Met would have been so blunt early on that the McCanns and their friends were not suspects if they had not gone over everything that they had access to (including possibly informal interviews for any points that needed to be clarified subsequent to the review). IMO, it would have been much easier to stay waffly: all options open, egg-on-face avoidance.


Offline Carana

Re: A Simple Question.
« Reply #119 on: March 13, 2018, 10:33:58 AM »
I didn’t dodge the points I was simply stopping you pulling this topic further off topic.

So you think that if Rowley, or Redwood, was asked directly if the McCanns were suspects and they were they’d possibly admit it ? Really ?

How do you understand this?
Mr Rowley said: "The parents’ involvement: that was dealt with at the time by the original investigation by the Portuguese.

“We’re happy that’s completely dealt with and there is no reason whatsoever to reopen that or start rumours that’s a line of investigation."


https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-kate-gerry-investigation-12944725

And... from the PT side:

Do you think it was a mistake to have the McCann couple constituted as arguidos in September 2007?

Obviously, I will not answer that question. But what I can say, just as I did back in 2011 and 2013, is that Maddie's parents are not suspects. That statement remains: the parents are not suspects. Period.

https://joana-morais.blogspot.co.uk/2017/05/pedro-do-carmo-maddies-parents-are-not.html