A Simple Question.

[Carana]

The OP was this:

A very, very simple question that only requires only a yes or no answer.

If OG and the PJ were investigating the McCann’s and their friend’s role in Madeleine’s disappearance do you think they would tell the general public ?

Even replying may now seem OT.

Personally, I find that it would have gone less OT if Faith had offered more than a binary response.

Yes

No

Maybe

Other

Explain why according to your selection.

ETA: And for any poll-style question, whoever initiates it.

[Lace]

I don't think SY would say if they were investigating the McCann's,  though neither do I think SY would have said the McCann's and their friends are not suspects, if they were.    I think they would probably have just left it with 'we are investigating all avenues'  or something like that.   I doubt very much that SY would have made a point of saying the McCann's were not suspects, if they were investigating them.

[Alice Purjorick]

The OP was this:

A very, very simple question that only requires only a yes or no answer.

If OG and the PJ were investigating the McCann’s and their friend’s role in Madeleine’s disappearance do you think they would tell the general public ?

Even replying may now seem OT.

Personally, I find that it would have gone less OT if Faith had offered more than a binary response.

Yes

No

Maybe

Other

Explain why according to your selection.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KTe4lHLlcs
The first ten minutes of this video shows the consequences of revealing one's intentions in advance and why it is a really dumb idea. In boxing terms it's known as "telegraphing your punches".

"The police and the media? . IMO the police use the media to their own ends and don't much care about how they go about it within limits. They will cast a little bread upon the water to see what comes up/back that is beneficial to them [the police]; overall a kind of symbiotic mutualism".

I doubt police forces send out subliminal messages as a conscious tactic.

In summary:
1 To reveal one's full intentions in advance imo is dumb and likely to lead to rapid failure.
2 IMO opinion the police will give info to the press if they feel they, the police, will benefit from it . The question is the level of reliability/exclusivity of the info imparted by the police. Bearing in mind the sole object of the press is to sell copy it rather puts the police in the driving seat.

[Mr Gray]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KTe4lHLlcs
The first ten minutes of this video shows the consequences of revealing one's intentions in advance and why it is a really dumb idea. In boxing terms it's known as "telegraphing your punches".

"The police and the media? . IMO the police use the media to their own ends and don't much care about how they go about it within limits. They will cast a little bread upon the water to see what comes up/back that is beneficial to them [the police]; overall a kind of symbiotic mutualism".

I doubt police forces send out subliminal messages as a conscious tactic.

In summary:
1 To reveal one's full intentions in advance imo is dumb and likely to lead to rapid failure.
2 IMO opinion the police will give info to the press if they feel they, the police, will benefit from it . The question is the level of reliability/exclusivity of the info imparted by the police. Bearing in mind the sole object of the press is to sell copy it rather puts the police in the driving seat.

There may well be other reasons for the police to give information  to the press... Not just because they may benefit from it.... And I see no reason that the police simply stated the mccanns we're not suspects due to all the previous unfair speculation  in portugal

[G-Unit]

There may well be other reasons for the police to give information  to the press... Not just because they may benefit from it.... And I see no reason that the police simply stated the mccanns we're not suspects due to all the previous unfair speculation  in portugal

All of which seems to have been repeated by the media in the UK.

[Alice Purjorick]

There may well be other reasons for the police to give information  to the press... Not just because they may benefit from it.... And I see no reason that the police simply stated the mccanns we're not suspects due to all the previous unfair speculation  in portugal

I am sure that is the case.
So delineate the other reasons you believe may exist.

[John]

Could we stay on topic please. TY

[Robittybob1]

"If OG and the PJ were investigating the McCann’s and their friend’s role in Madeleine’s disappearance do you think they would tell the general public ?" 

I suppose analysis of historical methods of information release is within the scope of the OP.  The idea that a thread would just be a list of yes's or No's would simply be unrealistic IMO.

[Carana]

All of which seems to have been repeated by the media in the UK.

Yes, as the PT press was the major source of "news", and I'll add IMO until I find evidence of this again, adding negative adjectives / adverbs / phrases from the usual tabloid drop-down menu ("incredibly", "latest slur", "bungling"........) was a fig leaf for a legal grey area in terms of reporting on a foreign investigation involving UK nationals.

[faithlilly]

Yes, as the PT press was the major source of "news", and I'll add IMO until I find evidence of this again, adding negative adjectives / adverbs / phrases from the usual tabloid drop-down menu ("incredibly", "latest slur", "bungling"........) was a fig leaf for a legal grey area in terms of reporting on a foreign investigation involving UK nationals.

You have to agree that the McCanns or their representatives briefing the press against the PJ and, I believe from Bilton, Murat didn’t help ?

[Robittybob1]

You have to agree that the McCanns or their representatives briefing the press against the PJ and, I believe from Bilton, Murat didn’t help ?

It is unacceptable to give opinion as fact and then disguise it as a question when it isn't even a question.

[Carana]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KTe4lHLlcs
The first ten minutes of this video shows the consequences of revealing one's intentions in advance and why it is a really dumb idea. In boxing terms it's known as "telegraphing your punches".

"The police and the media? . IMO the police use the media to their own ends and don't much care about how they go about it within limits. They will cast a little bread upon the water to see what comes up/back that is beneficial to them [the police]; overall a kind of symbiotic mutualism".

I doubt police forces send out subliminal messages as a conscious tactic.

In summary:
1 To reveal one's full intentions in advance imo is dumb and likely to lead to rapid failure.
2 IMO opinion the police will give info to the press if they feel they, the police, will benefit from it . The question is the level of reliability/exclusivity of the info imparted by the police. Bearing in mind the sole object of the press is to sell copy it rather puts the police in the driving seat.

Subliminal messages to whom?
If they hadn't been eliminated, the simplest would have been a PR waffly phrase to include all possibilities. Egg-on-face avoidance 101.

The PJ also reopened their investigation, and clearly stated that the McCanns weren't suspects - although I agree that that had been denied in the past just prior to arguidodom - but times have moved on. They could also have stated that they were taking the case back to zero.

The latest update was that the Met is now concentrating on a single outstanding lead.

As it hasn't been divulged what that is, speculation is still rife.

Some may still have "hope" that it's a subliminal message that it's the McCanns "whatdunnit".

I find it far more likely that both forces are still trying to work out the identity of one or more potential offenders in a broader investigation involving a spate of sexual actual/attempted/about to attempt cases in the area at the
time. As I still haven't found anything in the media that would indicate that anyone has been charged with those offences, I find that to be a likely possibility.

And, that may even include whether that or those persons were in the vicinity of Joana's disappearance at the time, for whom there is no evidence that she ever arrived back home that night.

[Carana]

You have to agree that the McCanns or their representatives briefing the press against the PJ and, I believe from Bilton, Murat didn’t help ?

I don't understand your question, Faith.

From memory, there was the initial family frenzy of getting the media on board with various garbled versions of facts in the immediate aftermath, and the impression that the GNR/PJ weren't actually doing anything, when in fact they were, with the resources at hand.

That all calmed down once it was established that there was evidence that there was an active investigation.

Zoom on. There was the "gloves off" time around arguidodom, but with a sustained media blitz of supposedly incriminating "leaks" from PT.

Sooo... no, I don't understand your question, particularly with respect to Murat. Could you explain?

[faithlilly]

I don't understand your question, Faith.

From memory, there was the initial family frenzy of getting the media on board with various garbled versions of facts in the immediate aftermath, and the impression that the GNR/PJ weren't actually doing anything, when in fact they were, with the resources at hand.

That all calmed down once it was established that there was evidence that there was an active investigation.

Zoom on. There was the "gloves off" time around arguidodom, but with a sustained media blitz of supposedly incriminating "leaks" from PT.

Sooo... no, I don't understand your question, particularly with respect to Murat. Could you explain?

Of course. Bilton in the 10th anniversary documentary said he was approached from someone within the McCannk camp asking him basically to dig up information on Murat in exchange, if I remember correctly, for greater access to the McCanns. A dirty trick I’m sure you’ll agree.

As to the McCanns denigrating the PJ we have firstly Gerry using the fellow Smith to get his viewpoint point out and various family members doing the same thing around arguido time to name but two.

[Mr Gray]

Of course. Bilton in the 10th anniversary documentary said he was approached from someone within the McCannk camp asking him basically to dig up information on Murat in exchange, if I remember correctly, for greater access to the McCanns. A dirty trick I’m sure you’ll agree.

As to the McCanns denigrating the PJ we have firstly Gerry using the fellow Smith to get his viewpoint point out and various family members doing the same thing around arguido time to name but two.

Let's have a cite of the actual words used rather than what you think you remember