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Offline Erngath

Re: A Simple Question.
« Reply #300 on: March 19, 2018, 07:45:37 PM »
Whichever it was subsequent feelings of guilt don't come into the equation.


No, she's dead.
So no guilty feelings for her!
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline faithlilly

Re: A Simple Question.
« Reply #301 on: March 19, 2018, 07:58:39 PM »
There was a recent case here where an English tourist decided to go out for a walk in Glencoe. Sadly for her,  she made a wrong decision but for some it was abject stupidity!

The result of her wrong decision/abject stupidity resulted in the mountain rescue having to be called in, at heavens knows what expense and tragically she was found dead.

Wrong decision versus abject stupidity ?
I prefer to think that at the moment she decided to go for a walk she felt it was safe to do so.

If she had had responsibility for a minor who was with her do you think her decision would have been different ?
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: A Simple Question.
« Reply #302 on: March 19, 2018, 08:01:28 PM »
Well let's see...  *%87   there's going out night after night leaving three toddlers alone in an unlocked apartment for starters and even when one of the children alerted to the fact that they were awake and howling for daddy.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: A Simple Question.
« Reply #303 on: March 19, 2018, 09:24:11 PM »
I know what they did, that wasn't the question I asked though.
Ask the question again please.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: A Simple Question.
« Reply #304 on: March 19, 2018, 09:30:55 PM »
Ask the question again please.
Please see post #296
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: A Simple Question.
« Reply #305 on: March 19, 2018, 09:38:09 PM »
Please see post #296
The law exists to punish those who make criminally bad or stupid decisions.  In this case legally speaking the McCanns actions were neither.  That being said what in your opinion is the difference between a wrong choice and and abject stupidity?
Someone's opinion.

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Offline jassi

Re: A Simple Question.
« Reply #306 on: March 20, 2018, 09:00:43 AM »
The law exists to punish those who make criminally bad or stupid decisions.  In this case legally speaking the McCanns actions were neither.  That being said what in your opinion is the difference between a wrong choice and and abject stupidity?
Someone's opinion.

Abject stupidity is when you make  the same mistake over and over again - IMO
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Offline Eleanor

Re: A Simple Question.
« Reply #307 on: March 20, 2018, 04:43:57 PM »
Is it necessary to go through the same set of circumstances as someone to know how you would react yourself? I don't think so.

I do.  How can you possible have any conception otherwise?

I can only guess of how I would feel if one of my children had been abducted.  But that is only initially.  Long term is completely beyond me, so I don't go there.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: A Simple Question.
« Reply #308 on: March 20, 2018, 05:06:07 PM »
Abject stupidity is when you make  the same mistake over and over again - IMO

its all opinion so of value only to the person whose opinion it is...I have total sympathy for the whole mccann fammily and for any family who have sufferred loss.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: A Simple Question.
« Reply #309 on: March 20, 2018, 06:54:04 PM »
its all opinion so of value only to the person whose opinion it is...I have total sympathy for the whole mccann fammily and for any family who have sufferred loss.
What about Goncalo Amaral's family after he lost his job?
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Offline G-Unit

Re: A Simple Question.
« Reply #310 on: March 20, 2018, 08:01:45 PM »
I do.  How can you possible have any conception otherwise?

I can only guess of how I would feel if one of my children had been abducted.  But that is only initially.  Long term is completely beyond me, so I don't go there.

I wasn't discussing havng a child abducted.
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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: A Simple Question.
« Reply #311 on: March 20, 2018, 10:56:57 PM »
Have you ever walked in her shoes?

Have I lost child through someone's selfish act. Yes I have.

I didn't do the jogging and blogging and merry fund raising,setting up businesses etc. I was in deep mourning for over a year.  It never leaves me what happened, it took a very long time to come to terms with my loss. However, I know for sure that if I thought anyone had snatched my child from her bed and suspected paedophiles YES I would not act like those parents did.
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Offline misty

Re: A Simple Question.
« Reply #312 on: March 20, 2018, 11:00:07 PM »
What about Goncalo Amaral's family after he lost his job?

He wasn't obliged to write his book about the McCanns & he resigned from the PJ as opposed to losing his job.

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: A Simple Question.
« Reply #313 on: March 20, 2018, 11:09:23 PM »
He wasn't obliged to write his book about the McCanns & he resigned from the PJ as opposed to losing his job.

I  Think constructive resignation would be  the UK label.  His position became untenable, his reputation  as an coordinator was under question.

His book- which I have never read- was written to address his situation he found himself in.

We must not forget the many people affected by the McCanns behaviour- not counting their daughters life. That whole community suffered- reputation of being  a paedophile capital of the world, the PJ being useless-job loses and the slur of not caring when so many people gave up a lot of time to search for MBM.
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Offline jassi

Re: A Simple Question.
« Reply #314 on: March 21, 2018, 08:45:01 AM »
He wasn't obliged to write his book about the McCanns & he resigned from the PJ as opposed to losing his job.

Nobody
has been obliged to write a book about this, but they did
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

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