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Offline Carana

Re: Why did the PJ interview 25 staff from the Millenium restaurant?
« Reply #45 on: March 13, 2018, 08:01:14 PM »
It seems the Steve denies having anything to do with the MCanns http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/STEVEN_COVA.htm

That does seem to be a contradiction between "authorised by his boss Steve,"  and Steve saying he saying "He never had any contact with the girl or her family before the disappearance and heard about them from the press."

What did Steve authorise regarding the T9 and when?

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Why did the PJ interview 25 staff from the Millenium restaurant?
« Reply #46 on: March 13, 2018, 08:11:53 PM »
What did Steve authorise regarding the T9 and when?
Luis says Steve authorised the Tapas 9 going to the Tapas restaurant even though there was a suggestion it was against the rules.  LUIS MIGUEL DE SOUSA BARROS http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/LUIS_BARROS.htm

"When asked he says that on a date he cannot remember, the group, just the adults because the children were dining with the nannies, had been too late in making their dinner reservation at the Tapas, and an exception was made, authorised by his boss Steve, as the Tapas only provides for 20 dinners for half board clients as was the case.

He think that this request was made in order to be close to the children who had their meals with the nannies, and to be close to the apartments."

But Steve seems to deny any involvement.
It is uncertain when, but it may have been the Thursday night.  There was an interview with the McCanns and there was a bit of uncertainty about whether they were going that night.  It wasn't exactly a wink wink nudge nudge but some sort of ducking was going on.  I would have no idea which YT that was in now but someone will surely remember it.

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Offline sadie

Re: Why did the PJ interview 25 staff from the Millenium restaurant?
« Reply #47 on: March 14, 2018, 12:49:51 AM »
They had interviewed Kate on the 4th.  Does she mention it?
Yes she does: "The day after their arrival, they went for breakfast at around 7.30/8.30 at the Ocean Club, in a bar situated some distance from the apartment. On the following days, because the bar was quite far away, they started buying supplies from the "BAPTISTE" supermarket, located on the same road as the apartment and they had their first meal of the day in the apartment."

So from the very moment the focus needed to be on the Baptista Supermarket not the Millennium IMO.
I totally agree with you, Rob

Seems that virtually daily visits were made there.  It only took one very nice ?lady to give sweeties to the little ones each day for her to become a lovely friend to them ... some one that they would trust.

Such a person could be very useful in an abduction .... the lifter, maybe ?

The Millenium staff didn't have the chance to  get to know the Mccann family .  Just one trip up there wasn't it?

AIMO

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Why did the PJ interview 25 staff from the Millenium restaurant?
« Reply #48 on: March 14, 2018, 04:40:48 AM »
Was it along Rua do Ramalhete that the blood was found?
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=7422.msg344460#msg344460  (great thread)

On Rua 1 Maio, about 400 metres north from Rua do Ramalhete
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Offline Carana

Re: Why did the PJ interview 25 staff from the Millenium restaurant?
« Reply #49 on: March 14, 2018, 10:30:18 AM »
Luis says Steve authorised the Tapas 9 going to the Tapas restaurant even though there was a suggestion it was against the rules.  LUIS MIGUEL DE SOUSA BARROS http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/LUIS_BARROS.htm

"When asked he says that on a date he cannot remember, the group, just the adults because the children were dining with the nannies, had been too late in making their dinner reservation at the Tapas, and an exception was made, authorised by his boss Steve, as the Tapas only provides for 20 dinners for half board clients as was the case.

He think that this request was made in order to be close to the children who had their meals with the nannies, and to be close to the apartments."

But Steve seems to deny any involvement.
It is uncertain when, but it may have been the Thursday night.  There was an interview with the McCanns and there was a bit of uncertainty about whether they were going that night.  It wasn't exactly a wink wink nudge nudge but some sort of ducking was going on.  I would have no idea with YT that was in now but someone will surely remember it.

I still don't see the issue.

They went to the Millenium on the Sat. Sun was at the Tapas. One of them (Rachael?) went to negotiate a block booking for the rest of the week. Luis contacts Steve to check if it was ok if a group of 9 block-booked. Steve replies back that it was ok. End of involvement.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Why did the PJ interview 25 staff from the Millenium restaurant?
« Reply #50 on: March 14, 2018, 05:26:03 PM »
I still don't see the issue.

They went to the Millenium on the Sat. Sun was at the Tapas. One of them (Rachael?) went to negotiate a block booking for the rest of the week. Luis contacts Steve to check if it was ok if a group of 9 block-booked. Steve replies back that it was ok. End of involvement.
Potentially that is how it could have been except on the days you suggest, Steve was out of the country (if I remember correctly) so wasn't around to give this approval.
Therefore it is not necessarily a solution to the situation.    Even in your proposed scenario, suggested as a solution, we would expect  Steve to admit he approved the block booking, but he doesn't.  Therefore that is an unresolved issue that remains IMO and the PJ don't do any cross checking of the facts they are inserting into the statements IMO.
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Offline Carana

Re: Why did the PJ interview 25 staff from the Millenium restaurant?
« Reply #51 on: March 15, 2018, 09:35:59 AM »
Potentially that is how it could have been except on the days you suggest, Steve was out of the country (if I remember correctly) so wasn't around to give this approval.
Therefore it is not necessarily a solution to the situation.    Even in your proposed scenario, suggested as a solution, we would expect  Steve to admit he approved the block booking, but he doesn't.  Therefore that is an unresolved issue that remains IMO and the PJ don't do any cross checking of the facts they are inserting into the statements IMO.

Why do you find it important? It doesn't appear as if he was asked.

He does say he was out of Portugal from the Sunday to the Wednesday, but Luis could have sent him an SMS to check.

He was back on the day she disappeared, so it's hardly as if he'd denied being in the country that day.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Why did the PJ interview 25 staff from the Millenium restaurant?
« Reply #52 on: March 15, 2018, 10:27:08 AM »
Why do you find it important? It doesn't appear as if he was asked.

He does say he was out of Portugal from the Sunday to the Wednesday, but Luis could have sent him an SMS to check.

He was back on the day she disappeared, so it's hardly as if he'd denied being in the country that day.
All I am saying is that I don't feel the inconsistency is eliminated properly.  There could be a adequate explanation but it isn't in the file as we have it.
If he approved the block booking he is involved but so far he has denied it.
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Offline Carana

Re: Why did the PJ interview 25 staff from the Millenium restaurant?
« Reply #53 on: March 15, 2018, 11:30:57 AM »
All I am saying is that I don't feel the inconsistency is eliminated properly.  There could be a adequate explanation but it isn't in the file as we have it.
If he approved the block booking he is involved but so far he has denied it.

What he is reported to have stated is:

"He never had any contact with the girl or her family before the disappearance and heard about them from the press."


Offline Robittybob1

Re: Why did the PJ interview 25 staff from the Millenium restaurant?
« Reply #54 on: March 15, 2018, 11:36:59 AM »
What he is reported to have stated is:

"He never had any contact with the girl or her family before the disappearance and heard about them from the press."
Well I'm saying approving a block booking for them is a form of contact.
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Offline jassi

Re: Why did the PJ interview 25 staff from the Millenium restaurant?
« Reply #55 on: March 15, 2018, 11:40:18 AM »
Well I'm saying approving a block booking for them is a form of contact.

Well it might be if he was told their name, but why should he be told this? If it was a phone conversation ll he would to know was that it was a group of 9.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Why did the PJ interview 25 staff from the Millenium restaurant?
« Reply #56 on: March 15, 2018, 11:47:46 AM »
Well it might be if he was told their name, but why should he be told this? If it was a phone conversation ll he would to know was that it was a group of 9.
Well that is your view, but it is not a fact as far as I know.  There was crash on the road outside my house, I spoke to one of the drivers,  I don't know his name and he doesn't know mine , but we had contact.
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Offline jassi

Re: Why did the PJ interview 25 staff from the Millenium restaurant?
« Reply #57 on: March 15, 2018, 11:57:45 AM »
Well that is your view, but it is not a fact as far as I know.  There was crash on the road outside my house, I spoke to one of the drivers,  I don't know his name and he doesn't know mine , but we had contact.

But would he know who he had contact with?  If he was speaking to his underling rather than a member of the group, then he had no contact with the group. Unless he spoke to McCann personally, he wouldn't realise that he was part of the group. Remember, McCanns weren't famous or even notable until after the event.

IMO
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Why did the PJ interview 25 staff from the Millenium restaurant?
« Reply #58 on: March 15, 2018, 04:55:03 PM »
But would he know who he had contact with?  If he was speaking to his underling rather than a member of the group, then he had no contact with the group. Unless he spoke to McCann personally, he wouldn't realise that he was part of the group. Remember, McCanns weren't famous or even notable until after the event.

IMO
Exactly but once the PJ find that Steve had contact they need to follow it up.'





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Offline jassi

Re: Why did the PJ interview 25 staff from the Millenium restaurant?
« Reply #59 on: March 15, 2018, 05:06:13 PM »
Exactly but once the PJ find that Steve had contact they need to follow it up.'

I disagree.
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