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Offline Robittybob1

Were the staff at the Batista Supermarket interviewed?
« on: March 12, 2018, 06:34:30 PM »
Were the staff at the Batista Supermarket interviewed?
How often did they take the kids into the supermarket.
Who went shopping?
What is the correct spelling of the supermarket? 

They weren't planning on having all their meals on their own but with the 3 kids in tow it became too difficult to walk all the way to the Millennium restaurant every morning for breakfast and every midday for lunch so the had breakfast in the apartment and presumably lunch as well.

But how did they get their provisions?  One of the Tapas 7 mentioned something about only getting female staff in the supermarket.  Was there a reason for this sexist comment?

"On May 3 they all woke between 7;30 and 8:00 AM; doesn't know who woke first. They washed the children and had breakfast at the apartment between 08:00 and 08:30 AM. Food bought by her and Gerry at Baptista supermarket. Previously they'd had breakfast at the Millenium, but as it was so far they'd decided to have breakfast at the apartment. "  The statements usually the speak of the witness in the third person so was this Kate admitting she had been in there with the Kids?

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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Were the staff at the Batista Supermarket interviewed?
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2018, 06:48:45 PM »
http://www.supermercado-baptista.com/  So it is spelt Baptista  not Batista or Baptiste.

Only one instance of that name in the alphabetical file  "JOAQUIM JOSE M.BAPTISTA WAITER 06 MAY 07"
No instances of files headed Supermarket so it appears that there was no interviews of staff working at the Baptista Supermarket.
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Online Eleanor

Re: Were the staff at the Batista Supermarket interviewed?
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2018, 06:54:21 PM »
http://www.supermercado-baptista.com/  So it is spelt Baptista  not Batista or Baptiste.

Irrelevant.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Were the staff at the Batista Supermarket interviewed?
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2018, 07:08:07 PM »
Irrelevant.
Spelling is not irrelevant when you are doing Google search.  There is nothing in the file so what can we discover about the Baptista on the internet?

http://www.pulse.ng/news/world/in-portugal-madeleine-mccanns-disappearance-haunts-resort-id6606588.html

"Many British expatriates in the city gather in the shady courtyard of the Baptista supermarket, spending mornings buried in British newspapers and drinking tea."
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Were the staff at the Batista Supermarket interviewed?
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2018, 07:11:04 PM »
Irrelevant.
Is this irrelevant? 
"All members of the group did their shopping at the only supermarket near the complex, the "Batista."
she not being concerned however about it. There are several till-points, more or less five. Twice she went to shop having always been attended at the till by ladies.  rogatory Rachael Mariamma Jean Mampilly Oldfield

In that I see the possibility of concern.
There is the concept of concern about the possibility of being served in the supermarket by a male checkout operator.
But she also got the spelling wrong and the PJ and the translators allowed the spelling to be entered wrongly into the file.
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Offline jassi

Re: Were the staff at the Batista Supermarket interviewed?
« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2018, 07:14:31 PM »
Spelling is not irrelevant when you are doing Google search.  There is nothing in the file so what can we discover about the Baptista on the internet?

http://www.pulse.ng/news/world/in-portugal-madeleine-mccanns-disappearance-haunts-resort-id6606588.html

"Many British expatriates in the city gather in the shady courtyard of the Baptista supermarket, spending mornings buried in British newspapers and drinking tea."

Does it say if they sell NZ white wine ?  8(>((
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Were the staff at the Batista Supermarket interviewed?
« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2018, 07:26:04 PM »
Does it say if they sell NZ white wine ?  8(>((
I'll take a wild guess and say "yes".
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Were the staff at the Batista Supermarket interviewed?
« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2018, 07:33:12 PM »
SiL has a great photo of the courtyard on the blog
And there were CCTV cameras on the building as well.    CCTV just meters away from where Madeleine went missing.
https://shininginluz.wordpress.com/2017/03/18/madeleine-baptista-cctv/

"The McCanns very quickly worked out that the walk from apartment 5A to the Millennium, complete with two twins aged 2 years and 3 months, and Madeleine aged nearly 4, minus a buggy for the twins, was too much like hard work. I have walked that walk. I can state that in the same circumstances, I would not have being using the Millennium, and there is a further statement in the PJ Files that supports this.

Thus, Baptista became the source of breakfast and lunch for the McCanns, with the Tapas zone providing high tea for the children and the Tapas Restaurant providing dinner for the Tapas 9. All of this, if you understand the layout of Luz, makes perfect sense. Baptista was perhaps 60m down Rua Martins from apartment 5A. Somewhat of a doddle."  https://shininginluz.wordpress.com/2017/01/02/madeleine-xmas-day-8-baptista/
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Online Eleanor

Re: Were the staff at the Batista Supermarket interviewed?
« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2018, 07:47:58 PM »
Is this irrelevant? 
"All members of the group did their shopping at the only supermarket near the complex, the "Batista."
she not being concerned however about it. There are several till-points, more or less five. Twice she went to shop having always been attended at the till by ladies.  rogatory Rachael Mariamma Jean Mampilly Oldfield

In that I see the possibility of concern.
There is the concept of concern about the possibility of being served in the supermarket by a male checkout operator.
But she also got the spelling wrong and the PJ and the translators allowed the spelling to be entered wrongly into the file.

Dear God, Rob, do you not know about the Catholic thing.  John Baptiste, and other spellings, according to whatever.

The spelling is entirely irrelevant.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Were the staff at the Batista Supermarket interviewed?
« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2018, 07:59:00 PM »
Dear God, Rob, do you not know about the Catholic thing.  John Baptiste, and other spellings, according to whatever.

The spelling is entirely irrelevant.
Here Dianne Webster or is it the translator who gets the spelling incorrect.  "She added that in the days preceding the disappearance of Madeleine, after breakfast she would play sport (especially tennis), after which she would go to the supermarket BATISTA to make the purchases for lunch. In return, she points out that several families who made up the group met in the PAYNE's apartment to have lunch together, explaining that this was due to the fact that it is the larger apartment. "

Well is Silvia's surname Baptista or Batista? 
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Online Eleanor

Re: Were the staff at the Batista Supermarket interviewed?
« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2018, 08:09:36 PM »
Here Dianne Webster or is it the translator who gets the spelling incorrect.  "She added that in the days preceding the disappearance of Madeleine, after breakfast she would play sport (especially tennis), after which she would go to the supermarket BATISTA to make the purchases for lunch. In return, she points out that several families who made up the group met in the PAYNE's apartment to have lunch together, explaining that this was due to the fact that it is the larger apartment. "

Well is Silvia's surname Baptista or Batista?

It could be either, depending on who you thought John the Baptiste was.

Have you ever heard of John the Baptist?

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Were the staff at the Batista Supermarket interviewed?
« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2018, 08:12:21 PM »
It could be either, depending on who you thought John the Baptiste was.

Have you ever heard of John the Baptist?
Are you saying they could spell names however they felt like it?  Of course I've heard of John the Baptist.  I appreciate in those days surnames were not essential.
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Online Eleanor

Re: Were the staff at the Batista Supermarket interviewed?
« Reply #12 on: March 12, 2018, 08:28:55 PM »
Are you saying they could spell names however they felt like it?  Of course I've heard of John the Baptist.  I appreciate in those days surnames were not essential.

Of course I am saying they could change the actual spelling.  Foreigners do this.  An E or an A on the end. Or are you telling me that you are completely ignorant of this?

Incidentally, Baptiste can be a Forename or a Surname, but generally one does not  pronounce the P.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Were the staff at the Batista Supermarket interviewed?
« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2018, 09:10:45 PM »
Of course I am saying they could change the actual spelling.  Foreigners do this.  An E or an A on the end. Or are you telling me that you are completely ignorant of this?

Incidentally, Baptiste can be a Forename or a Surname, but generally one does not  pronounce the P.
Completely ignorant of that. 
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Were the staff at the Batista Supermarket interviewed?
« Reply #14 on: March 12, 2018, 09:37:04 PM »
It is so ridiculous that every time we see the name of the supermarket it is spelt differently

This was Kate's statement too:
"The day after their arrival, they went for breakfast at around 7.30/8.30 at the Ocean Club, in a bar situated some distance from the apartment. On the following days, because the bar was quite far away, they started buying supplies from the "BAPTISTE" supermarket, located on the same road as the apartment and they had their first meal of the day in the apartment."

The only person to spell it correctly was Kate:
"On May 3 they all woke between 7;30 and 8:00 AM; doesn't know who woke first. They washed the children and had breakfast at the apartment between 08:00 and 08:30 AM. Food bought by her and Gerry at Baptista supermarket.
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