Will the appointment of Luis Neves have any impact on the Madeleine McCann case?

[barrier]

Back to the thread title,I expect it'll make as much difference as the changes in the hierarchy of the MET.

[Robittybob1]

Really?  Please reproduce the cite from the decision which states that there was sufficient evidence to consider the McCanns may have had a hand in their child’s disappearance.

We've argued this a million times.  It is the contrast between having enough evidence to convict them or having enough evidence to clear them.

[Brietta]

I wouldn’t say it was his opinion that he knew had been the driving force of the investigation ,more that it was his  certain knowledge of that fact .
Whatever,  his predecessor has stated the position is in  [ Neves] good hands ?

It wasn't actually a fact though was it?  It may have been a fact there was suspicion.  It may have been a fact there was a conviction of guilt.  It may have been a fact that the case coordinator developed a thesis which drove him to the extent that he carried it into civilian life with him to write a reputation destroying book based on it.

However all that was in the bad old days at the end of 2007. By early 2008 the misinterpretation of what evidence there was and the lack of evidence against the three official suspects led not to a change in direction but to the archiving of Madeleine's case.

Obviously Neves continued his police career and continued climbing the ladder and making a name for himself.

The Policia Judiciaria to which he has dedicated his working life and which he now heads carried out a review of the evidence and as a result recommended the reopening of the investigation into Madeleine's case.

The thread asks will he have an impact on Madeleine's case?  His nickname is "the diplomat" and I think career policeman that he is he will indeed have an impact and I think it will be a positive one.

[Brietta]

Now that isn't what I said at all ?
    Portuguese Supreme Court judges   said the lifting of their status as 'arguidos', or formal suspects, and the archiving of the criminal case into Maddie's disappearance did not mean they were innocent.
They   stated "It should not be said that the appellants were cleared via the ruling announcing the archiving of the criminal case"

Welcome to the forum Snowgirl.

Thank you for including a snip quoting the High Court judges.  Please also provide a link to enable members to read it for themselves.

[Robittybob1]

Now that isn't what I said at all ?
    Portuguese Supreme Court judges   said the lifting of their status as 'arguidos', or formal suspects, and the archiving of the criminal case into Maddie's disappearance did not mean they were innocent.
They   stated "It should not be said that the appellants were cleared via the ruling announcing the archiving of the criminal case"

Didn't they really mean: "It should not be said that the appellants were cleared [in the Civil Court] via the ruling announcing the archiving of the criminal case"
The contrast in standards between the civil and criminal systems again.

[Snowgirl]

Welcome to the forum Snowgirl.

Thank you for including a snip quoting the High Court judges.  Please also provide a link to enable members to read it for themselves.

Thankyou Brietta .
There's already been a 43 page topic in here on the Supreme Court decision and what they said ?

[Vertigo Swirl]

We've argued this a million times.  It is the contrast between having enough evidence to convict them or having enough evidence to clear them.

It seems I am not allowed the right of reply tonight, so no further comment from me.

[Robittybob1]

It seems I am not allowed the right of reply tonight, so no further comment from me.

I'm only discussing the situation, I have not reported any posts.  It is a matter of keeping on topic, which is difficult even for myself.

[Miss Taken Identity]

Police chief with McCann case history new top cop in Portugal

A senior detective who investigated the 2007 disappearance of Madeleine McCann has been named Portugal's new chief of police.

Luis Neves, who previously headed up Portugal's counter-terrorism unit, will become the director of the Policia Judiciaria in June.

In the days after Maddie vanished, Neves assisted the massive police search for Madeleine because of his counter-terror background and experience in hostage taking and abduction situations.

When three-year-old Madeleine disappeared from a holiday apartment in Praia da Luz on Portugal's Algarve on May 3, 2007, abduction was the first police line of inquiry.

However, as the investigation deepened, detectives also explored other possibilities - including declaring Maddie's parents, Kate and Gerry McCann, formal suspects.

The McCanns have always denied playing any part in the disappearance of Madeleine, who was just days away from her fourth birthday. Both had their status of formal suspect lifted when the 14-month case was shelved in 2008, with police citing a lack of evidence to move the investigation forward. The McCanns have maintained from the outset that Madeleine was abducted.

Neves is known to be friends with Goncalo Amaral, the Portuguese detective who led the McCann investigation before he was abruptly removed from the case in October, 2007.

https://www.9news.com.au/world/2018/05/16/15/36/police-chief-with-madeleine-mccann-case-history-new-top-cop-in-portugal

In red bolden. This is quite a different story from the UK Media reports from 'friends of the family' pals' and other 'sauces'.

SO will the supporters now gang up on this guy and trash his name and police methodology? HE is the EXPERT in kidnapping and Abduction- not the parents or the UK media.

I don't think he will let the family leaks affect his theory as to what happened to MBM. I am sure he will accept MBM was abducted when the person/s are charged.

[Brietta]

Thankyou Brietta .
There's already been a 43 page topic in here on the Supreme Court decision and what they said ?

A cite supporting the information you have posted has been requested.  Please supply one.  As a Newbie you may be unfamiliar with forum etiquette which places the onus on you to provide links to information you post.  Please allow me to assure you that you are not unique in being requested to provide a cite, most members are asked to do so at one time or another.
The courtesy of compliance with such a request is expected.

[Snowgirl]

A cite supporting the information you have posted has been requested.  Please supply one.  As a Newbie you may be unfamiliar with forum etiquette which places the onus on you to provide links to information you post.  Please allow me to assure you that you are not unique in being requested to provide a cite, most members are asked to do so at one time or another.
The courtesy of compliance with such a request is expected.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4206214/Court-says-Madeleine-McCann-s-parents-HAVEN-T-cleared.html

[Brietta]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4206214/Court-says-Madeleine-McCann-s-parents-HAVEN-T-cleared.html

Thank you.  That is much appreciated, I'm sure it won't take you long to get the hang of the forum protocols.

[kmoore1967]

Well that you don't know do you.

I could say - his opinion hasn't changed after 10 years imo

I don't think anyone in the PJ has changed their opinion in this.

[Robittybob1]

I don't think anyone in the PJ has changed their opinion in this.

Some of what you write is true IMO.

[John]

I would think his opinion may well have changed now due to the developments in tha last ten years

Developments?  I was unaware they have discovered what befell Madeleine McCann.