Author Topic: Will the appointment of Luis Neves have any impact on the Madeleine McCann case?  (Read 20911 times)

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Offline misty

What makes you think the three suspected burglars were cleared by the original investigation?

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=8207.msg407487#msg407487

"Portuguese Polícia Judiciária officially said in May 2017: "We never saw or looked at those people [José Carlos and Ricardo] as suspects of the crime" (Pedro do Carmo)".

I can't locate the original transcript containing that part atm but I know it's somewhere on the net.

Offline Brietta

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=8207.msg407487#msg407487

"Portuguese Polícia Judiciária officially said in May 2017: "We never saw or looked at those people [José Carlos and Ricardo] as suspects of the crime" (Pedro do Carmo)".

I can't locate the original transcript containing that part atm but I know it's somewhere on the net.

I'm sure I've seen that too, Misty, but the best I can do at the moment is:

Maddie case: Murat's friend is amongst the suspects heard by the PJ tvi24
The common factor between the suspects is the fact that they live in Praia da Luz and contacted each other in May 2007, at the time Maddie disappeared. Although they may be suspects for the British police, they are irrelevant for the PJ which heard them during the 2007 investigation.
http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/id498.htm
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Carana

Neves was certainly heavily involved in the McCann case. It was he and Encarnacao who met with the McCanns to update them, not Amaral. It was he and Encarnacao who allegedly interviewed them on 8th August and asked questions which should have been asked only of aguidos. It was him who Bob Small phoned when the McCanns were panicking about being made arguidos. When questioned at Amaral's trial, however, he played down his role;

The Judge asks the witness if he intervened in the criminal process related to Madeleine McCann's disappearance.
LN says he did, but not directly.
 The Judge – What do you mean by "indirectly"?
LN says that, though he went to the Algarve a few times to meet Guilhermino Encarnação, then Director of the PJ in Faro, and Gonçalo Amaral, the operations were performed by Portimão police officers under the direction of his team.
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=2600.0

Amaral, however, makes it clear in his book. A team from the DCCB came from Lisbon with their director (Neves).
From then on, two deputy national directors (Neves and Encarnacao) would direct the investigation assisted by the coordinator (him).

I think the same thing happened in the Cipriano case too.

Not quite sure what to make of that. Was Amaral really just an office boy, then?

Offline Snowgirl

Not quite sure what to make of that. Was Amaral really just an office boy, then?
Co ordinator, a person whose job is to organize events or activities and to negotiate with others in order to ensure they work together effectively.
Rather higher up the ladder than office boy given his  Chief Inspector title ?  8(0(*

Offline John

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A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Alice Purjorick

If you listen to what Neves said at amarals trial it is clear why he supported amrals thinking at the time. It seems he too was under the impression that the alerts were very reliable and as good as conformed the previos presence of a cadaver in 5a...no wonder he suspected the McCanns.

That statement implies you have heard an audio recording of the trial proceedings.

It would be good of you to post same for thebenefit of the rest of us.
A recording of press interviews on courthouse steps will not pass muster.
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Offline Carana

Co ordinator, a person whose job is to organize events or activities and to negotiate with others in order to ensure they work together effectively.
Rather higher up the ladder than office boy given his  Chief Inspector title ?  8(0(*


In view of his book, documentary, press interviews and column in a pro-PJ tabloid all expounding his "expert view" and non-existent experience of such cases, bar one which landed him in hot water, one might be tempted to think that he was, in fact, the chief inspector. He wasn't - he was the coordinator.

Offline Snowgirl

I don’t think he gave the impression that he was in charge of the case .
As I’ve just stated he was the co ordinator and as such would have all the information to hand which had been gathered . Is this going to turn into  yet another attack on Amaral ?

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Offline Mr Gray

I don’t think he gave the impression that he was in charge of the case .
As I’ve just stated he was the co ordinator and as such would have all the information to hand which had been gathered . Is this going to turn into  yet another attack on Amaral ?

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makes a change from the attacks on the McCann's..... Anything  said against amaral pales into insignificance to what has, been said about kate

Offline slartibartfast

makes a change from the attacks on the McCann's..... Anything  said against amaral pales into insignificance to what has, been said about kate

Which one of them had a choice about being involved, the inattentive mother or the policeman.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline carlymichelle

Which one of them had a choice about being involved, the inattentive mother or the policeman.

the inattentive mother had a choice, it was her and her husbands terrible parenting that contributed to whatever did happen to maddie  imo
« Last Edit: June 01, 2018, 07:10:34 PM by John »

Offline Mr Gray

Which one of them had a choice about being involved, the inattentive mother or the policeman.

The policeman had a choice in taking that career... Kate didn't choose her predicament

Offline Vertigo Swirl


John has explicitly requested that  posts not posters are attacked.
« Last Edit: June 01, 2018, 07:10:42 PM by Brietta »
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Angelo222

No agenda... But the criticism towards amarL is nothing compared to the insults towards kate

Kate McCann knew exactly what she was doing when she hurled insults at GNR and PJ officers in her book of thoughts. How dare they bring her in for questioning and make her a chief suspect in her daughter's disappearance, her being a GP and upright citizen et all.
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!

Offline Mr Gray

Kate McCann knew exactly what she was doing when she hurled insults at GNR and PJ officers in her book of thoughts. How dare they bring her in for questioning and make her a chief suspect in her daughter's disappearance, her being a GP and upright citizen et all.

and I think what she did was absolutely right.
« Last Edit: June 01, 2018, 06:15:32 PM by slartibartfast »