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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Examples of Gerry McCanns Selective Memories
« Reply #120 on: May 25, 2018, 08:07:26 PM »
OMG!
Now he's just an old man that nobody believes
Says he's a gunfighter the last of this breed
And there's ghosts in the street seekin' revenge
Callin' him out to the lunatic fringe
He's out in the traffic now checking the sun
And he's killed by a car as he goes for his gun

So much for the smell of the black powder smoke
And the stand in the street at the turn of a joke

 (&^&
Johnny Cash The Last Gunfighter Ballad?
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Examples of Gerry McCanns Selective Memories
« Reply #121 on: May 25, 2018, 08:35:43 PM »
No reason at all?!  I posted a link to an article which gives plenty of reasons why witness statements are often inaccurate and unreliable, and not because the witness is dishonest, but you can see NO reason to believe it’s the explanation, seriously?  Why not?

I don't know why Fiona's evidence was incorrect, and neither do you. You have found an explanation that you're happy with but I prefer to remain open to all possibilities, and why should I not?
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Examples of Gerry McCanns Selective Memories
« Reply #122 on: May 25, 2018, 08:54:55 PM »
I don't know why Fiona's evidence was incorrect, and neither do you. You have found an explanation that you're happy with but I prefer to remain open to all possibilities, and why should I not?
Because IMO when you consider all the known facts, such as DP making no attempt to hide the fact that he called on Kate for example, then not all possibilities are equally as plausible or likely. 
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Examples of Gerry McCanns Selective Memories
« Reply #123 on: May 25, 2018, 08:56:24 PM »
I don't know why Fiona's evidence was incorrect, and neither do you. You have found an explanation that you're happy with but I prefer to remain open to all possibilities, and why should I not?
so you are open to the possibility that inconsistencies in the statements may be due to mistranslation

Offline G-Unit

Re: Examples of Gerry McCanns Selective Memories
« Reply #124 on: May 25, 2018, 09:43:24 PM »
Because IMO when you consider all the known facts, such as DP making no attempt to hide the fact that he called on Kate for example, then not all possibilities are equally as plausible or likely.

The fact that DP didn't attempt to hide his visit is only relevant if there's reason to believe he might have wanted to. Gerry gave the information to the PJ on 10th May and DP wasn't interviewed again until his rog interview. He certainly contradicted the evidence of his womenfolk.

 1485 "Okay. So then you went back and then you played, you played a game for about an hour''
 Reply "Yeah.'

1485 "You think from seven, from about seven till about eight''
 Reply "Yeah, I mean it must, I mean it was before, I mean we got back before eight o' clock err you know so perhaps just before seven, err sorry, err yeah just before seven so it was just before eight o' clock. As I say when I got back I think I was cutting it fine and Fiona was still keen to go for a run and we started to get everyone ready for bed.'
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DAVID-PAYNE-ROGATORY.htm
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Examples of Gerry McCanns Selective Memories
« Reply #125 on: May 25, 2018, 09:53:16 PM »
The fact that DP didn't attempt to hide his visit is only relevant if there's reason to believe he might have wanted to. Gerry gave the information to the PJ on 10th May and DP wasn't interviewed again until his rog interview. He certainly contradicted the evidence of his womenfolk.

 1485 "Okay. So then you went back and then you played, you played a game for about an hour''
 Reply "Yeah.'

1485 "You think from seven, from about seven till about eight''
 Reply "Yeah, I mean it must, I mean it was before, I mean we got back before eight o' clock err you know so perhaps just before seven, err sorry, err yeah just before seven so it was just before eight o' clock. As I say when I got back I think I was cutting it fine and Fiona was still keen to go for a run and we started to get everyone ready for bed.'
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DAVID-PAYNE-ROGATORY.htm
Earlier you described Fiona Payne as “providing an alibi” for her husband for the time between 6.30pm and 7pm which she later withdrew.  As DP made no attempt to hide the fact that he paid a visit to Kate’s apartment then I can see no reason why his wife, knowing she would be contradicting her own husband’s statement would deliberately supply a false alibi on purpose.  Can you?  Because any other explanation apart from an honest mistake or a translation / police error would point to a very sinister and unsavoury but also extremely far-fetched plot involving a minimum 4 people from the group involved in the child’s disappearance.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Examples of Gerry McCanns Selective Memories
« Reply #126 on: May 26, 2018, 06:48:33 AM »
Earlier you described Fiona Payne as “providing an alibi” for her husband for the time between 6.30pm and 7pm which she later withdrew.  As DP made no attempt to hide the fact that he paid a visit to Kate’s apartment (an event which you later attempted to link to a statement made by Katerina Gaspar for reasons best known to yourself, but I think we can take an educated guess at) then I can see no reason why his wife, knowing she would be contradicting her own husband’s statement would deliberately supply a false alibi on purpose.  Can you?  Because any other explanation apart from an honest mistake or a translation / police error would point to a very sinister and unsavoury but also extremely far-fetched plot involving a minimum 4 people from the group involved in the child’s disappearance.

I have copied this and answered it on the relevant thread; the tennis timeline one.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Examples of Gerry McCanns Selective Memories
« Reply #127 on: May 26, 2018, 07:34:07 AM »
I have copied this and answered it on the relevant thread; the tennis timeline one.
I can’t see it.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Examples of Gerry McCanns Selective Memories
« Reply #128 on: May 27, 2018, 09:55:07 AM »
Gerry, meanwhile, forgot he carried on playing tennis and that Kate went jogging.

At 15H30, the tennis instructor arrived, who instructed each of them until 16H30.

----- The stayed in that place, talking, until 16H45 at which time the twins went to the meal area. At 17h00, as usual, MADELEINE arrived accompanied by the teachers and the other children. After her arrival, MADELEINE ate, [the meal] having ended at 17H30.
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Re: Examples of Gerry McCanns Selective Memories
« Reply #129 on: May 27, 2018, 10:52:36 AM »
Posters are advised to stay on topic otherwise they run the risk that posts will be expunged.  TY
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Examples of Gerry McCanns Selective Memories
« Reply #130 on: May 27, 2018, 12:31:01 PM »
Gerry, meanwhile, forgot he carried on playing tennis and that Kate went jogging.

At 15H30, the tennis instructor arrived, who instructed each of them until 16H30.

----- The stayed in that place, talking, until 16H45 at which time the twins went to the meal area. At 17h00, as usual, MADELEINE arrived accompanied by the teachers and the other children. After her arrival, MADELEINE ate, [the meal] having ended at 17H30.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GERRY-MCCANN-10MAY.htm
Who says Kate went jogging?
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Examples of Gerry McCanns Selective Memories
« Reply #131 on: May 27, 2018, 02:32:07 PM »
Who says Kate went jogging?

She does.
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Offline carlymichelle

Re: Examples of Gerry McCanns Selective Memories
« Reply #132 on: May 27, 2018, 02:35:45 PM »
She does.

from memory didnt she get chased by  dogs while running and she was scared??

Offline G-Unit

Re: Examples of Gerry McCanns Selective Memories
« Reply #133 on: May 27, 2018, 02:44:03 PM »
from memory didnt she get chased by  dogs while running and she was scared??

I think that was a different day.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Examples of Gerry McCanns Selective Memories
« Reply #134 on: May 31, 2018, 09:36:06 PM »
Depending on which version one chooses to believe, one has a choice between Payne didn't enter the apartment or he did and stayed for a while. One just has to wonder who's embarrassment was being spared?  The entire period between Maddie being last seen in public after 6pm and Kate raising the alarm shortly after 10pm appears to be sprinkled with mistaken memories and enigmas.

Or mistaken translations