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Offline slartibartfast

Re: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund
« Reply #256 on: July 02, 2018, 07:30:27 PM »
Could you link to the charity itself and its accounts please?

It was wound up in 2013...
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund
« Reply #257 on: July 02, 2018, 07:58:22 PM »
It was wound up in 2013...
So, there are no historical accounts that we can look at?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund
« Reply #258 on: July 02, 2018, 08:03:03 PM »
So, there are no historical accounts that we can look at?

Who knows, it was a fund that was setup, raised a lot of money, distributed said money and closed down.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline faithlilly

Re: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund
« Reply #259 on: July 02, 2018, 08:09:54 PM »
It was wound up in 2013...

It was.

The money was donated to help with the search for April, likewise for Madeleine. Both missing children had an active police investigation in progress when the funds were set up. April’s fund was registered with the Charity Commission to benefit the community and was overseen by directors completely independent of the family, Madeleine’s fund was registered as a company with over half the directors family or personal friends of the McCanns and was for the benefit of one child and her family.

The search, at the time both funds were registered was being carried out by the an official police force so there was no need to fund a search. April’s family accepted this and the money went to good causes. The McCanns knew this yet still decided not to share the money with good causes.

My question is why ?
« Last Edit: July 02, 2018, 08:12:23 PM by Faithlilly »
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund
« Reply #260 on: July 02, 2018, 08:19:54 PM »
Who knows, it was a fund that was setup, raised a lot of money, distributed said money and closed down.
Surely accounts should be available to view after the charity is closed, in the same way that they are for companies?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund
« Reply #261 on: July 02, 2018, 08:20:57 PM »
It was.

The money was donated to help with the search for April, likewise for Madeleine. Both missing children had an active police investigation in progress when the funds were set up. April’s fund was registered with the Charity Commission to benefit the community and was overseen by directors completely independent of the family, Madeleine’s fund was registered as a company with over half the directors family or personal friends of the McCanns and was for the benefit of one child and her family.

The search, at the time both funds were registered was being carried out by the an official police force so there was no need to fund a search. April’s family accepted this and the money went to good causes. The McCanns knew this yet still decided not to share the money with good causes.

My question is why ?
How long into the search for April before the police informed her parents that they were no longer looking for a living child?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline misty

Re: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund
« Reply #262 on: July 02, 2018, 08:26:44 PM »
Surely accounts should be available to view after the charity is closed, in the same way that they are for companies?
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/april-jones-fund-trustees-astounded-6114517

30th Sept 2013.....

snipped
......The fund, now administered by a  board of trustees, has collected well in  excess of £70,000, and donations are  still being made.

The money will be split in three ways  in accordance with the family’s wishes,  with a portion being donated to a local  search and rescue organisation, a local charity that benefits children and to the family of April.

Offline faithlilly

Re: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund
« Reply #263 on: July 02, 2018, 08:30:13 PM »
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/april-jones-fund-trustees-astounded-6114517

30th Sept 2013.....

snipped
......The fund, now administered by a  board of trustees, has collected well in  excess of £70,000, and donations are  still being made.

The money will be split in three ways  in accordance with the family’s wishes,  with a portion being donated to a local  search and rescue organisation, a local charity that benefits children and to the family of April.

And ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline misty

Re: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund
« Reply #264 on: July 02, 2018, 08:48:02 PM »
And ?

It's self-explanatory how the fund was distributed after being wound up. Is there another fund still collection for charity in April's name?

Offline faithlilly

Re: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund
« Reply #265 on: July 02, 2018, 08:58:28 PM »
It's self-explanatory how the fund was distributed after being wound up. Is there another fund still collection for charity in April's name?

I’m not sure what you’re getting at ? The Madeleine fund, like April’s, could have received charitable status if their aims had been widened. The McCanns could still have received money, just not all the money. With charitable status they would also be able to claim 25p for every pound donated which would have added greatly to the amount the fund raised.

Bottom line is that when the OFM fund was set up the McCanns could have had no idea that they would have  to fund a search so there was nothing stopping them widening the aims. At this distance it looks like greed rather than need.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline misty

Re: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund
« Reply #266 on: July 02, 2018, 09:02:26 PM »
I’m not sure what you’re getting at ? The Madeleine fund, like April’s, could have received charitable status if their aims had been widened. The McCanns could still have received money, just not all the money. With charitable status they would also be able to claim 25p for every pound donated which would have added greatly to the amount the fund raised.

Bottom line is that when the OFM fund was set up the McCanns could have had no idea that they would have  to fund a search so there was nothing stopping them widening the aims. At this distance it looks like greed rather than need.

Were the objectives of each fund identical at the respective times they were set up?

Offline faithlilly

Re: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund
« Reply #267 on: July 02, 2018, 09:03:50 PM »
Were the objectives of each fund identical at the respective times they were set up?

Of course not but they could have been.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund
« Reply #268 on: July 02, 2018, 09:16:42 PM »
I’m not sure what you’re getting at ? The Madeleine fund, like April’s, could have received charitable status if their aims had been widened. The McCanns could still have received money, just not all the money. With charitable status they would also be able to claim 25p for every pound donated which would have added greatly to the amount the fund raised.

Bottom line is that when the OFM fund was set up the McCanns could have had no idea that they would have  to fund a search so there was nothing stopping them widening the aims. At this distance it looks like greed rather than need.
The idea that the McCanns should have set up a charity to help all missing people abroad in the early days of Madeleine’s disappearance is patently absurd IMO.  Furthermore, how is it greedy to safeguard donations sent to you to help you with your personal situation?  If I sent you £1000 to help you at a time of need in your life should I consider you greedy for gratefully accepting it?
« Last Edit: July 02, 2018, 09:19:50 PM by Vertigo Swirl »
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund
« Reply #269 on: July 02, 2018, 09:19:27 PM »
The idea that the McCanns should have set up a charity to help all missing people abroad in the early days of Madeleine’s disappearance is patently absurd IMO.
Definitely agree.
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