Timeline May 3rd

[G-Unit]

But they were doing regular and frequent listening checks.

So? They went out. They were unavailable for at least 30 minutes at a time.

[Robittybob1]

So? They went out. They were unavailable for at least 30 minutes at a time.

Which seemed to be acceptable to the Portuguese authorities.

[G-Unit]

Which seemed to be acceptable to the Portuguese authorities.

It depends what you mean by acceptable.

 the parents were not persistently worried about their children [and] that they didn't check on them like they afterwards declared they did, rather neglecting their duty to guard those same children, although not in a temerarious, or gross, manner.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/LEGAL_SUMMARY.htm

[Robittybob1]

It depends what you mean by acceptable.

 the parents were not persistently worried about their children [and] that they didn't check on them like they afterwards declared they did, rather neglecting their duty to guard those same children, although not in a temerarious, or gross, manner.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/LEGAL_SUMMARY.htm

That is what I mean, it may not have been perfect but they accepted it and didn't prosecute.

[G-Unit]

That is what I mean, it may not have been perfect but they accepted it and didn't prosecute.

No, it wasn't perfect. They were absent for at least 30 minutes between checks, quite possibly longer.

[Brietta]

No, it wasn't perfect. They were absent for at least 30 minutes between checks, quite possibly longer.

Please provide cites for your claim.

[Lace]

No, it wasn't perfect. They were absent for at least 30 minutes between checks, quite possibly longer.

How could they spend 30 minutes or more doing checks when they had a meal to eat?

[kizzy]

That is what I mean, it may not have been perfect but they accepted it and didn't prosecute.

IMO there could be a reason why they accepted it - and  not because they believed them.



Revealed: Why the Portuguese police didn’t charge McCanns for children’s ‘abandonment’ after Maddie disappeared



MADELEINE McCann’s parents were not prosecuted for abandoning their daughter
while they dined near by because of “compassion”, law chiefs have claimed.

Portuguese officials thought Brits had “peculiar customs” where it was “natural
for them to leave the two-year-old twin siblings and the other
three-year-old child alone”.

Former minister of internal affairs Rui Pereira slammed Portuguese cops for
not making Kate, 48, and 47-year-old dad Gerry suspects for abandonment.

Madeleine, who was three at the time, was left sleeping in the family’s
holiday apartment in the Algarve resort with her younger twin siblings as
her parents went for dinner with friends in a nearby restaurant.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/archives/news/1151476/revealed-why-the-portuguese-police-didnt-charge-mccanns-for-childrens-abandonment-after-maddie-disappeared/

[Robittybob1]

IMO there could be a reason why they accepted it - and  not because they believed them.



Revealed: Why the Portuguese police didn’t charge McCanns for children’s ‘abandonment’ after Maddie disappeared



MADELEINE McCann’s parents were not prosecuted for abandoning their daughter
while they dined near by because of “compassion”, law chiefs have claimed.

Portuguese officials thought Brits had “peculiar customs” where it was “natural
for them to leave the two-year-old twin siblings and the other
three-year-old child alone”.

Former minister of internal affairs Rui Pereira slammed Portuguese cops for
not making Kate, 48, and 47-year-old dad Gerry suspects for abandonment.

Madeleine, who was three at the time, was left sleeping in the family’s
holiday apartment in the Algarve resort with her younger twin siblings as
her parents went for dinner with friends in a nearby restaurant.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/archives/news/1151476/revealed-why-the-portuguese-police-didnt-charge-mccanns-for-childrens-abandonment-after-maddie-disappeared/

Do you believe that to be the case?  "Brits had “peculiar customs” where it was “natural
for them to leave the two-year-old twin siblings and the other three-year-old child alone”.

[G-Unit]

Do you believe that to be the case?  "Brits had “peculiar customs” where it was “natural
for them to leave the two-year-old twin siblings and the other three-year-old child alone”.

Jane Tanner assured them that it was so;

It is normal (culturally, traditionally, education/examples seen) [for] English tourists to leave, for some time, their small children alone in the bedroom/apartment to sleep while the parents are absent, normally guaranteeing that it is done for short periods of time (15/30 minutes). At those times there is a sporadic check, in time, of the places where the children are.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JANE-TANNER-10MAY.htm

[kizzy]

Do you believe that to be the case?  "Brits had “peculiar customs” where it was “natural
for them to leave the two-year-old twin siblings and the other three-year-old child alone”.

Are you having a laugh 


No i don't but it seems imo this is what TM wanted the PJ to think.

[Miss Taken Identity]

It depends what you mean by acceptable.

 the parents were not persistently worried about their children [and] that they didn't check on them like they afterwards declared they did, rather neglecting their duty to guard those same children, although not in a temerarious, or gross, manner.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/LEGAL_SUMMARY.htm

On the night of MBM's disappearance it was noted that Gerry was gone a while on his check. This does  not equate to 30 seconds to get from table to bedroom door to 'listen'.

[Angelo222]

It depends what you mean by acceptable.

 the parents were not persistently worried about their children [and] that they didn't check on them like they afterwards declared they did, rather neglecting their duty to guard those same children, although not in a temerarious, or gross, manner.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/LEGAL_SUMMARY.htm

The shit hit the fan though when Maddie was found to be missing so a common approach was needed to the ad-hoc child checking.

[Robittybob1]

Jane Tanner assured them that it was so;

It is normal (culturally, traditionally, education/examples seen) [for] English tourists to leave, for some time, their small children alone in the bedroom/apartment to sleep while the parents are absent, normally guaranteeing that it is done for short periods of time (15/30 minutes). At those times there is a sporadic check, in time, of the places where the children are.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JANE-TANNER-10MAY.htm

I cannot accept that Jane Tanner said that at all.  My initial reaction is that that paragraph has been added into Jane's statement by the PJ for some reason.
On which page in the original is that paragraph?

[Robittybob1]

Are you having a laugh 


No i don't but it seems imo this is what TM wanted the PJ to think.

The words are what is found in the PJ files not TM (whoever TM is?).