Pro bono or Conditional Fee Arrangement (CFA)?

[Mr Gray]

Carter-Ruck didn't work pro bono.

Yes they did... according to Kate..

[faithlilly]

So didn’t you claim CR had worked pro bono on the Express litigation?

[Alice Purjorick]

Just am opinion ... but it stands to reason that there would have to be a legal method of ensuring that agreements are implemented to avoid having to return to court at a later date.

I explained this about a week or so ago.
You clearly chose to ignore it or were not paying attention.

[Mr Gray]

So didn’t you claim CR had worked pro bono on the Express litigation?

I believe they did some early work pro bono ...yes

[Mr Gray]

I explained this about a week or so ago.
You clearly chose to ignore it or were not paying attention.

Or your explanation was not correct..once again...you gave your opinion...that's all

[Brietta]

from Dr Kate McCann's book, pages 289-290:

“Adam Tudor and his colleagues [at Carter-Ruck] continue to do a vast amount of work for us, without payment, most of it quietly, behind the scenes…”

Just come across this...anyone got the book to confirm

From Kate's book ...
Not only had I never expected to get to know so many lawyers, I didn’t expect to like quite so many of them. Ed Smethurst, Adam Tudor, Isabel Hudson and Isabel Duarte in particular have laboured faithfully out of the goodness of their hearts, on Madeleine’s behalf and ours, regardless of the day or the hour. Their priceless expertise and commitment has extended to the completion of this book. Cláudia Nogueira from LIFT Consulting has also been a vital source of knowledge and advice and a very good friend.

Also from Kate's book ...
Adam Tudor and his colleague Isabel Hudson continue to do a vast amount of work for us, without payment, most of it quietly, behind the scenes.
They have given us invaluable advice, for example, in our attempts to deal with the widespread defamatory
material circulating on the internet.

[Alice Purjorick]

CR were on a retainer, Adam Tudor confirmed this in front of the select committee. There was no work done for free. Why do you insist there was when even the main players say otherwise?

Good question.
"I tell you it's Burt Reynolds".The fun starts at 19 mins.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TibKJLHRjD8

[faithlilly]

I believe they did some early work pro bono ...yes

Unfortunately the evidence doesn’t support your belief so I’m afraid your amusement is misplaced.

[slartibartfast]

From Kate's book ...
Not only had I never expected to get to know so many lawyers, I didn’t expect to like quite so many of them. Ed Smethurst, Adam Tudor, Isabel Hudson and Isabel Duarte in particular have laboured faithfully out of the goodness of their hearts, on Madeleine’s behalf and ours, regardless of the day or the hour. Their priceless expertise and commitment has extended to the completion of this book. Cláudia Nogueira from LIFT Consulting has also been a vital source of knowledge and advice and a very good friend.

Also from Kate's book ...
Adam Tudor and his colleague Isabel Hudson continue to do a vast amount of work for us, without payment, most of it quietly, behind the scenes.
They have given us invaluable advice, for example, in our attempts to deal with the widespread defamatory
material circulating on the internet.

quote

"Mr Tudor: Yes. My partners and I talked about it. We have a committee of partners that looks at whether or not a case is on a no win, no fee basis, as you probably heard from my partner, Mark Thompson. We did that with Kate and Gerry's case. It was a longer, more difficult discussion than would ordinarily be the case because of the extraordinary nature, volume and so on. We sent the complaints to The Express and The Star, at which point we were acting on a normal retainer. We indicated to Kate and Gerry and we told The Express and The Star at that time that if the matter was not resolved we would indeed go on to a no win, no fee arrangement."

[Vertigo Swirl]

 

[faithlilly]

From Kate's book ...
Not only had I never expected to get to know so many lawyers, I didn’t expect to like quite so many of them. Ed Smethurst, Adam Tudor, Isabel Hudson and Isabel Duarte in particular have laboured faithfully out of the goodness of their hearts, on Madeleine’s behalf and ours, regardless of the day or the hour. Their priceless expertise and commitment has extended to the completion of this book. Cláudia Nogueira from LIFT Consulting has also been a vital source of knowledge and advice and a very good friend.

Also from Kate's book ...
Adam Tudor and his colleague Isabel Hudson continue to do a vast amount of work for us, without payment, most of it quietly, behind the scenes.
They have given us invaluable advice, for example, in our attempts to deal with the widespread defamatory
material circulating on the internet.

Ed Smethurst was paid by Kennedy, Isabel Duarte and Claudia Nogueira was paid by the fund, Adam Tudor and Isabel Hudson were working for CR on a retainer paid either by a benefactor or the fund and/or unsuccessful defendants. There is absolutely no evidence that any legal services where given from the kindness of any these people's hearts and to claim there was is disingenuous at best.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Ed Smethurst was paid by Kennedy, Isabel Duarte and Claudia Nogueira was paid by the fund, Adam Tudor and Isabel Hudson were working for CR on a retainer paid either by a benefactor or the fund and/or unsuccessful defendants. There is absolutely no evidence that any legal services where given from the kindness of any these peopke’s hearts and to claim there was is disingenuous at best.

What sort of evidence would you expect there to be to show that any of these people had undertaken any legal services out of the goodness of their hearts?

[Brietta]

Moderators are also supposed to provide cites but I have been ignored when requesting them.

Seven what? Deadly sins, Samurai, Wonders of the World?

"we also issued a formal complaint against Associated Newspapers......After a rather protracted series of negotiations we came to an agreement involving financial compensation and a front-page apology in the Standard."
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=9874.msg475669#msg475669

I am aware that there have been occasions that a moderator has not supplied a cite when requested ... however you have suggested I have ignored you (perish the thought  ) ... I am afraid you will have to substantiate that with a cite.

But prior to doing that I require a cite to substantiate the implication you made in your post as detailed below ... thank you.


You said ...
It has never been claimed that the money paid by them was donated to the Fund.
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=9874.msg475633#msg475633
 

[G-Unit]

I am aware that there have been occasions that a moderator has not supplied a cite when requested ... however you have suggested I have ignored you (perish the thought  ) ... I am afraid you will have to substantiate that with a cite.

But prior to doing that I require a cite to substantiate the implication you made in your post as detailed below ... thank you.


You said ...
It has never been claimed that the money paid by them was donated to the Fund.
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=9874.msg475633#msg475633

I have been unable to find any claim that compensation paid to the McCanns by Associated Press was put into the Fund. I am happy to be corrected if anyone knows more than I do about that.

[G-Unit]

I am aware that there have been occasions that a moderator has not supplied a cite when requested ... however you have suggested I have ignored you (perish the thought  ) ... I am afraid you will have to substantiate that with a cite.

But prior to doing that I require a cite to substantiate the implication you made in your post as detailed below ... thank you.


You said ...
It has never been claimed that the money paid by them was donated to the Fund.
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=9874.msg475633#msg475633

Snip/

There is no record of it.  Nor is there any record of Mr and Mrs Moyes who were in the apartment above Mrs fenn being interviewed either.
Or the people who left apartment 5J on May 4th.  Does anyone even know who they were, where they went or where they are now?



Is it a fact that people left 5J on 4th May? I think a cite could be required.
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=9683.msg469449#msg469449