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Offline slartibartfast

Re: Pro bono or Conditional Fee Arrangement (CFA)?
« Reply #405 on: July 29, 2018, 05:20:43 PM »
Quote from: Davel on July 29, 2018, 10:01:28 AM
I have produced evidence...Kates statement

She didn’t mention Pro Bono?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Pro bono or Conditional Fee Arrangement (CFA)?
« Reply #406 on: July 29, 2018, 05:24:37 PM »
Quote from: slartibartfast on July 29, 2018, 05:20:43 PM
She didn’t mention Pro Bono?

she mentioned free of charge
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: Pro bono or Conditional Fee Arrangement (CFA)?
« Reply #407 on: July 29, 2018, 05:25:31 PM »
Quote from: Davel on July 29, 2018, 04:14:56 PM
as I posted some time ago...pro bono to the mccanns

You now appear to be inventing new definitions to cover your misuse of Pro Bono.
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Offline John

Re: Pro bono or Conditional Fee Arrangement (CFA)?
« Reply #408 on: July 29, 2018, 08:17:00 PM »
Quote from: Davel on July 28, 2018, 09:51:05 PM
from Dr Kate McCann's book, pages 289-290:

“Adam Tudor and his colleagues [at Carter-Ruck] continue to do a vast amount of work for us, without payment, most of it quietly, behind the scenes…”

Just come across this...anyone got the book to confirm

They would do wouldn't they if they knew there would be a fat fee at the end of it.  Nobody anywhere has stated that CR worked on behalf of the McCanns for free.  As for pro bono, that's for any poor souls who are broke.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Pro bono or Conditional Fee Arrangement (CFA)?
« Reply #409 on: July 29, 2018, 08:19:20 PM »
Quote from: John on July 29, 2018, 08:17:00 PM
They would do wouldn't they if they knew there would be a fat fee at the end of it.  Nobody anywhere has stated that CR worked on behalf of the McCanns for free.

Of course they would...I wonder if the McCanns approached CR or CR approached the McCann's in the first place..CR knew they could earn a fortune from the McCann case
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Pro bono or Conditional Fee Arrangement (CFA)?
« Reply #410 on: July 29, 2018, 08:21:22 PM »
Quote from: Vertigo Swirl on July 29, 2018, 08:04:48 PM
yup.

The McCann's 'point of view' is irrelevant when defining pro bono, as you know.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Pro bono or Conditional Fee Arrangement (CFA)?
« Reply #411 on: July 29, 2018, 08:23:33 PM »
Quote from: G-Unit on July 29, 2018, 08:21:22 PM
The McCann's 'point of view' is irrelevant when defining pro bono, as you know.

I wonder if Duaryr  did any pro bono work
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: Pro bono or Conditional Fee Arrangement (CFA)?
« Reply #412 on: July 29, 2018, 08:23:48 PM »
Quote from: Davel on July 29, 2018, 08:19:20 PM
Of course they would...I wonder if the McCanns approached CR or CR approached the McCann's in the first place..CR knew they could earn a fortune from the McCann case

So they were, by definition, not working Pro Bono then.
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Offline John

Re: Pro bono or Conditional Fee Arrangement (CFA)?
« Reply #413 on: July 29, 2018, 08:24:54 PM »
Quote from: slartibartfast on July 28, 2018, 10:44:41 PM
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"Mr Tudor: Yes. My partners and I talked about it. We have a committee of partners that looks at whether or not a case is on a no win, no fee basis, as you probably heard from my partner, Mark Thompson. We did that with Kate and Gerry's case. It was a longer, more difficult discussion than would ordinarily be the case because of the extraordinary nature, volume and so on. We sent the complaints to The Express and The Star, at which point we were acting on a normal retainer. We indicated to Kate and Gerry and we told The Express and The Star at that time that if the matter was not resolved we would indeed go on to a no win, no fee arrangement."

I haven't met a lawyer yet who worked on a libel case for free and the McCann case was no different.  CR knew they would be paid handsomely in the end so the notion that they worked for free is frankly silly.
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: Pro bono or Conditional Fee Arrangement (CFA)?
« Reply #414 on: July 29, 2018, 08:25:46 PM »
Quote from: Davel on July 29, 2018, 08:24:23 PM
See my previous posts

I have seen your previous posts and it is clear they weren’t doing pro bono work for the McCanns.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Pro bono or Conditional Fee Arrangement (CFA)?
« Reply #415 on: July 29, 2018, 08:26:20 PM »
Quote from: John on July 29, 2018, 08:24:54 PM
I haven't met a lawyer yet who worked on a libel case for free and the McCann case was no different.  CR knew they would be paid in the end so the notion that they worked for free is frankly silly.

No one has suggested they worked for free...just no cost to the McCanns
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: Pro bono or Conditional Fee Arrangement (CFA)?
« Reply #416 on: July 29, 2018, 08:27:42 PM »
Quote from: Davel on July 29, 2018, 08:26:20 PM
No one has suggested they worked for free...just no cost to the McCanns

You keep saying pro bono which is working for free.
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Offline John

Re: Pro bono or Conditional Fee Arrangement (CFA)?
« Reply #417 on: July 29, 2018, 08:28:47 PM »
Quote from: Faithlilly on July 28, 2018, 10:58:51 PM
Ed Smethurst was paid by Kennedy, Isabel Duarte and Claudia Nogueira was paid by the fund, Adam Tudor and Isabel Hudson were working for CR on a retainer paid either by a benefactor or the fund and/or unsuccessful defendants. There is absolutely no evidence that any legal services where given from the kindness of any these people's hearts and to claim there was is disingenuous at best.

I would call it wishful thinking. I think Kate McCann was just a tad naive to think CR was preparing their libel case against the media out of the goodness of their hearts.
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Offline John

Re: Pro bono or Conditional Fee Arrangement (CFA)?
« Reply #418 on: July 29, 2018, 08:31:01 PM »
Quote from: Davel on July 29, 2018, 08:26:20 PM
No one has suggested they worked for free...just no cost to the McCanns

I would agree with that, the newspapers paid CR as part of the out-of-court settlement.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Pro bono or Conditional Fee Arrangement (CFA)?
« Reply #419 on: July 29, 2018, 08:31:28 PM »
Quote from: John on July 29, 2018, 08:28:47 PM
I would call it wishful thinking. I think Kate McCann was just a tad naive to think CR was preparing their libel case against the media out of the goodness of their hearts.

I'm sure Kate realised CR would do well out of any case as she knew there was no real evidence against them
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