Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?

[faithlilly]

I'm not second-guessing them as my opinion is offered in hindsight.

What wisdom has hindsight endowed you with that would equate to being in the bedroom of 5a and seeing the unresponsive state of the twins ? Kate, Gerry, Fiona Payne, Dianne Webster and several police officers were and, even with hindsight, believed the twins may have been drugged.

[Robittybob1]

IMO no one has been able to proffer any credible reason why Kate McCann would deliberately raise the possibility of sedation if she herself had been involved in sedating her own children.

Amaral did at some time as he proposed Kate raised the issue late at a time when it was no longer provable.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Amaral did at some time as he proposed Kate raised the issue late at a time when it was no longer provable.

To what end?

[Robittybob1]

What wisdom has hindsight endowed you with that would equate to being in the bedroom of 5a and seeing the unresponsive state of the twins ? Kate, Gerry, Fiona Payne, Dianne Webster and several police officers were and, even with hindsight, believed the twins may have been drugged.

I respect Misty's wisdom but whether she is right on this one is debatable.

[Robittybob1]

To what end?

Well as we say in NZ "to cover his arse".  He didn't do it timely either so put the blame on Kate.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Well as we say in NZ "to cover his arse".  He didn't do it timely either so put the blame on Kate.

Fair point but I was more interested in what possible motivation Kate could have had for drawing attention to the possibility of sedation if this was something she herself had facilitated.

[Robittybob1]

Fair point but I was more interested in what possible motivation Kate could have had for drawing attention to the possibility of sedation if this was something she herself had facilitated.

He implied she was trying to look innocent.

[misty]

What wisdom has hindsight endowed you with that would equate to being in the bedroom of 5a and seeing the unresponsive state of the twins ? Kate, Gerry, Fiona Payne, Dianne Webster and several police officers were and, even with hindsight, believed the twins may have been drugged.

Why do you use the word "may" if the consensus was they had been drugged?

[faithlilly]

Why do you use the word "may" if the consensus was they had been drugged?

Unless the twins were tested and a definitive answer formed it is only a possibility but the individuals there at the time believed that due to the unresponsive stare of the twins that sedation was by far the most likely possibility.

[misty]

Unless the twins were tested and a definitive answer formed it is only a possibility but the individuals there at the time believed that due to the unresponsive stare of the twins that sedation was by far the most likely possibility.

You included police officers in the list of individuals there. Again, what excuse was there for them not acting professionally & arranging for the twins to be tested? Are all victims of crime in Portugal supposed to have knowledge of investigative procedure or should they be just left to it?

[Angelo222]

It wouldn't matter if they had been tested as a small whiff of chloroform wouldn't have been detectable anyway since it metabolizes out of a living body in a matter of hours.

If the PJ performed a sniff test on the children's bedclothes then they most probably were looking for signs of chloroform.

[misty]

It wouldn't matter if they had been tested as a small whiff of chloroform wouldn't have been detectable anyway since it metabolizes out of a living body in a matter of hours.

And if they'd been subjected to a large whiff of chloroform which left them in an unresponsive state & placed their lives in grave danger - what then?

[Angelo222]

And if they'd been subjected to a large whiff of chloroform which left them in an unresponsive state & placed their lives in grave danger - what then?

I understand that if large amounts are used that it can be detected in the victim's blood but again, a blood sample would need to be taken within hours. Chloroform apparently burns the skin on contact so was there ever any reference to the twins being checked for burning around their nose and mouth?

[misty]

I understand that if large amounts are used that it can be detected in the victim's blood but again, a blood sample would need to be taken within hours. Chloroform apparently burns the skin on contact so was there ever any reference to the twins being checked for burning around their nose and mouth?

That would have, again, been the responsibility of the PJ/CSI team but seemed to have never been addressed.
IMO the concern apparently shown about the twins by the non-police witnesses is evidence that the adults were not habitually sedating the children to facilitate interruption-free dining.

[Robittybob1]

Why do you use the word "may" if the consensus was they had been drugged?

Did anyone ever express the thought as definite?