Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?

[faithlilly]

I believe Kate did raise the issue that the Madeleine and the twins could have been drugged.   Why would they test Madeleine's bed for drugs if they just thought she had woke and wandered?

The twins weren’t mentioned. Of course this would have been the ideal time to ask for them to be tested if their parents had concerns. It makes you wonder why the didn’t.

[faithlilly]

IMO Kate did tell the police about her concerns for the twins,  Kate mentions it in her book and it is very strange that one of the officers should mention the twins didn't wake up with all the noise going on,  how was he to know they hadn't woken and gone back to sleep?

Your opinion is irrelevant Lace. The statements of the witnesses say otherwise.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Perhaps Kate should have told the police. In my opinion that would have been an interesting conversation.

"I think my children may have been sedated"
"What makes you think that?"
"Despite all the noise and disturbance they haven't woken up"
"Have you tried to waken them?"
"No"
"Why not?"
"They're breathing"

Did Kate say she didn’t attempt to wake them up?  But putting that to one side for a minute - you have previously stated that you don’t believe the children were sedated, therefore in your opinion they must have only been sleeping deeply.  Given that, do you not also think it would have been possible to remove a child from her bed without her waking up and screaming?

[G-Unit]

Did Kate say she didn’t attempt to wake them up?  But putting that to one side for a minute - you have previously stated that you don’t believe the children were sedated, therefore in your opinion they must have only been sleeping deeply.  Given that, do you not also think it would have been possible to remove a child from her bed without her waking up and screaming?

I can only comment on what the witnesses said they thought or did. Speculating on what they might have thought or done I try to leave to others.

Did I say I didn't believe the children were sedated?

I have no idea whether a particular child could have been removed from her bed without her waking up and screaming.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I can only comment on what the witnesses said they thought or did. Speculating on what they might have thought or done I try to leave to others.

Did I say I didn't believe the children were sedated?

I have no idea whether a particular child could have been removed from her bed without her waking up and screaming.

I believe you said you had researched the subject of sedation and could not find anything to support the idea that they had been, did I misunderstand?

[Vertigo Swirl]

She raised the possibility not us, therefore she must believe it was possible. I have looked at various substances and methods and in my opinion it wasn't possible.

^^^this post.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Perhaps Kate should have told the police. In my opinion that would have been an interesting conversation.

"I think my children may have been sedated"
"What makes you think that?"
"Despite all the noise and disturbance they haven't woken up"
"Have you tried to waken them?"
"No"
"Why not?"
"They're breathing"

Going back to this post now - what makes you think the conversation would have gone like this?

[G-Unit]

^^^this post.

Thank you. What I was saying there was that I don't believe it was possible for an intruder to sedate three children at some point between 8.30 and 10 pm, which is what Kate McCann appears to be suggesting.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Thank you. What I was saying there was that I don't believe it was possible for an intruder to sedate three children at some point between 8.30 and 10 pm, which is what Kate McCann appears to be suggesting.

OK, well you don’t believe Calpol was used either, so what substances do you think could have been used?

[Miss Taken Identity]

OK, well you don’t believe Calpol was used either, so what substances do you think could have been used?

Why are you asking this question? all hypothetical so you and Davel can argue those substances were NOT used- hypothetically!

It  is Kate who would be better to ask- she is the expert in these  matters.

 I have stated that I feel with Kate's expertise in these matters and, it was her who brought this matter up, she would be in a better position to gage what was used and who would have the skill and time to administer this. I have already mentioned that the skill would be knowing the child's weight and height & age, and knowledge of any allergies to prevent death by over dose or allergic reaction.

It isn't a difficult question to ask of her really...So I can't understand the issues supporters have  with people asking.

[Lace]

The twins weren’t mentioned. Of course this would have been the ideal time to ask for them to be tested if their parents had concerns. It makes you wonder why the didn’t.

Kate says she did mention it.   Why did the Police officer mention the twins didn't wake up with all the noise going on?   How did he know?   What noise was going on when he was there,  according to the statement he heard them crying in their bedroom,  kneeling down apparently.

[Lace]

Your opinion is irrelevant Lace. The statements of the witnesses say otherwise.

I was asking a question.  The Police Officer was a witness,  and unless he knew what the other witnesses had said about the twins not waking up,  how did he know they didn't wake up and go back to sleep again?   Unless Kate had mentioned it to him.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Why are you asking this question? all hypothetical so you and Davel can argue those substances were NOT used- hypothetically!

It  is Kate who would be better to ask- she is the expert in these  matters.

 I have stated that I feel with Kate's expertise in these matters and, it was her who brought this matter up, she would be in a better position to gage what was used and who would have the skill and time to administer this. I have already mentioned that the skill would be knowing the child's weight and height & age, and knowledge of any allergies to prevent death by over dose or allergic reaction.

It isn't a difficult question to ask of her really...So I can't understand the issues supporters have  with people asking.

I’m asking the question because I’m interested in the answer,  G-Unit has researched the subject, has ruled out certai. substances and methods of delivery if given by a would-be abductor, bit hasn’t ruled out sedation entirely.  She must have some reason for ruling out one scenario but not the other, that’s why I asked, is there a law against it?

[G-Unit]

OK, well you don’t believe Calpol was used either, so what substances do you think could have been used?

I can find nothing which is easy to administer to a sleeping child and which keeps them sleeping for eight hours with no ill effects.

[Miss Taken Identity]

I can find nothing which is easy to administer to a sleeping child and which keeps them sleeping for eight hours with no ill effects.

Yes, me either, but then we are not specialists or experts with access to medical information of the children, and if the drugging abductor was a stranger- he /she /they wouldn't have this either!

Edit:Forgot to add... the time factored in to administer this without getting caught!

We come back to why would Kate suggest  this ?