Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?

[Brietta]

Whether it wasn’t relevant to the original post is not the issue. You asked for a cite and were given one.

  ... and here was me thinking that the reason for providing a cite was to substantiate a post ... but it seems any cite will do???  I really think not.

[Sunny]

But you haven't provided a cite when asked...neither have many other posters

When have I not provided a cite. I can recall 3 to 4 times you have failed (this one being a case in point).

[faithlilly]

  ... and here was me thinking that the reason for providing a cite was to substantiate a post ... but it seems any cite will do???  I really think not.

It was to substantiate a claim made within a thread. The cite was relevant to the claim if not to the original post.

[Robittybob1]

Could someone please explain the relevance of the ketamine intranasal spray?  Was such a product found at the apartment?

It was portrayed as a possible sedative used on the McCann kids.

[slartibartfast]

Apologies Vertigo Swirl I will post in full and bold the relevant parts then.

Just put “snip” for the bits you remove.

[slartibartfast]

Could someone please explain the relevance of the ketamine intranasal spray?  Was such a product found at the apartment?

G-unit said she had been unable to find a drug that would put the kids to sleep for the required amount of time, Davel suggested Ketamine.

[Mr Gray]

G-unit said she had been unable to find a drug that would put the kids to sleep for the required amount of time, Davel suggested Ketamine.

Not quite correct....gunit asked for a drug that would result in s child sleeping for 8 hours......ketamine wouldn't put a child to sleep for 8 hours but would result in sleep for 8 hours...due to its half life....many children sleep for 8 hours in any event....I supposed I should put...imo

[Mr Gray]

It was portrayed as a possible sedative used on the McCann kids.

I never suggested it was used on the children...I could be petty and request a cite...but I'm not

[Mr Gray]

I can find nothing which is easy to administer to a sleeping child and which keeps them sleeping for eight hours with no ill effects.

I suggested intra nasal ketamine.....the post does not even mention the McCann children

Ketamine provides clinical sedation for one HR ...cited given.but due to its 2 to 3 HR half life... cited..it would mean the child would sleep for 8 hrs...imo...as most children sleep for 8 hours anyway

I also cited an article which stated it could be given to 0 to 14 year old with no serious side effects along with several other cites

That to me seems a reasonable answer to a post
The only difference is that last night I omitted the one imo...because I assumed that most posters realise that after sedation or general anaesthesia patients tend to sleep for some time.....do I need another imo there

[Erngath]

It was to substantiate a claim made within a thread. The cite was relevant to the claim if not to the original post.

It didn't substantiate the claim that " even their own son IS (present tense) questioning the whole sordid episode apparently".
The cite was a link to four year old articles about S*** mentioning that he had overheard Amarals sordid theory about his parents disposing of Madeleine's body,
Really!
However as you feel a cite has only to be provided but not be relevant, I guess this qualifies as a cite in your opinion, but not in mine.

[Robittybob1]

I agree... according to John last night it should not be allowed without naming names

We'll deal with that if it ever happens again.  Rare situation IMO.

[G-Unit]

I find that obeying the rules keeps me out of trouble. I recommend that other members try it instead of arguing about them.

I'm still not convinced that a sedative could be administered to sleeping children and produce the effect described by Kate McCann, Fiona Payne and Dianne Webster.

The children's bedroom was searched by Kate and Gerry McCann, Fiona Webster, Amy Tierney and the GNR officer. That would involve a light being turned on. There was reportedly a lot of noise also. The twins were then carried out of the apartment. I believe that they were carried to 4G first then to 5H later. They reportedly never woke up.



 

[Mr Gray]

I find that obeying the rules keeps me out of trouble. I recommend that other members try it instead of arguing about them.

I'm still not convinced that a sedative could be administered to sleeping children and produce the effect described by Kate McCann, Fiona Payne and Dianne Webster.

The children's bedroom was searched by Kate and Gerry McCann, Fiona Webster, Amy Tierney and the GNR officer. That would involve a light being turned on. There was reportedly a lot of noise also. The twins were then carried out of the apartment. I believe that they were carried to 4G first then to 5H later. They reportedly never woke up.

You still have not supplied a cite for a direct quote from Duarte

I don't think the twins were sedated....but in a hypothetical situation IN Ketamine would be the best solution...imo

[Angelo222]

Not quite correct....gunit asked for a drug that would result in s child sleeping for 8 hours......ketamine wouldn't put a child to sleep for 8 hours but would result in sleep for 8 hours...due to its half life....many children sleep for 8 hours in any event....I supposed I should put...imo

Are you offering that opinion as a qualified medical professional or as a layman? 

[Angelo222]

I am asking you as a senior moderator and since you profess to be a bit of an expert in various disciplines I was curious which one you are today?  Members are entitled to know if you have a professional qualification in chemistry or medicine since you claimed such yesterday or are you merely providing an opinion as a layman.

If you are offering a qualified opinion I suggest you make admin aware of your status as has become accepted practice.