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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #315 on: August 02, 2018, 06:48:18 PM »
I suppose it depends on the child but Kate was adamant that Maddie would have kicked up a fuss.
Do you have a cite?
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #316 on: August 02, 2018, 06:48:57 PM »
I suppose it depends on the child but Kate was adamant that Maddie would have kicked up a fuss.

As was her grandmother.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Sunny

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #317 on: August 02, 2018, 06:51:40 PM »
Do you have a cite?

Kate even joked that Madeleine is probably giving her kidnapper a taste of her forceful character.

She said: "Madeleine is such a sociable child, so funny and engaging.

"She has a lot of personality. Her name actually means 'tower of strength'.

"She hated it when we called her Maddie. She'd say 'My name is Madeleine' with an indignant look.

"I bet she's giving whoever she's with her tuppence worth."


https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/kate-mccanns-agony-498019

Just for you Vertigo Swirl.
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Offline Brietta

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #318 on: August 02, 2018, 06:52:00 PM »
No but the abductor would have had to carry her somewhere. Apologies I was looking at the time of Gerry's last sighting of Maddie to the Smith's sighting and assumed the abductor must have been walking around for up to (i did say up to) 40 minutes.  Do you believe in the smith sighting Brietta and could you see Madeleine lying frozen whilst being carried around the village?

Kate said she thought Madeleine would give them her "tuppenceworth" as I think I have read.

In my opinion an abductor would have got Madeleine out of sight at the earliest opportunity either into a vehicle or into a building.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Erngath

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #319 on: August 02, 2018, 06:52:30 PM »
I suppose it depends on the child but Kate was adamant that Maddie would have kicked up a fuss.

My interpretation of her remark was that Madeleine on realising she had been taken from her parents would have been capable of voicing her concern.
Not perhaps while she was drowsy but certainly when she realised she had been taken.
Perhaps Kate was voicing her hopes that Madeleine would be aware of what had happened and indeed  that she would still be alive to kick up a fuss.
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Offline John

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #320 on: August 02, 2018, 07:00:47 PM »
In my opinion an abductor would have got Madeleine out of sight at the earliest opportunity either into a vehicle or into a building.

Into a vehicle certainly which renders the Smith sighting all the more mysterious as the man has never come forward.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #321 on: August 02, 2018, 07:11:26 PM »
Into a vehicle certainly which renders the Smith sighting all the more mysterious as the man has never come forward.

Had the Smith sighting been promoted in Portugal...or the rest of Europe

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #322 on: August 02, 2018, 07:13:51 PM »

Kate even joked that Madeleine is probably giving her kidnapper a taste of her forceful character.

She said: "Madeleine is such a sociable child, so funny and engaging.

"She has a lot of personality. Her name actually means 'tower of strength'.

"She hated it when we called her Maddie. She'd say 'My name is Madeleine' with an indignant look.

"I bet she's giving whoever she's with her tuppence worth."


https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/kate-mccanns-agony-498019

Just for you Vertigo Swirl.
Thanks for the cite but it doesn’t say that Madeleine would have kicked up a fuss in the process of being abducted, only that she would currently (ie in 2007/08) be giving her abductor a hard time.  Now, if I was really childish I would keep on demanding a cite that confirms what John wrote, thankfully for all concerned I’m not.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline faithlilly

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #323 on: August 02, 2018, 07:20:47 PM »
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1564727/Madeleine-McCann-drugged-says-grandmother.html

“Speaking on the 150th day since Madeleine went missing and ahead of a renewed publicity campaign aimed at finding her, the 69-year-old told the Belfast Telegraph the family were “going through hell” as the endless stream of police leaks about Gerry and Kate’s involvement in their daughter’s disappearance continued.
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Mrs McCann, who lives in Scotland and runs a pub, said: “I really believe they (whoever took her) gave her a drug.
“There is no way they carried her out of there without her awakening.
“If she was taken when she was sleeping by somebody she did not know, she would have screamed the place down.”
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #324 on: August 02, 2018, 07:22:59 PM »
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1564727/Madeleine-McCann-drugged-says-grandmother.html

“Speaking on the 150th day since Madeleine went missing and ahead of a renewed publicity campaign aimed at finding her, the 69-year-old told the Belfast Telegraph the family were “going through hell” as the endless stream of police leaks about Gerry and Kate’s involvement in their daughter’s disappearance continued.
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Kate McCann will risk jail to find Madeleine 30 Sep 2007
Mrs McCann, who lives in Scotland and runs a pub, said: “I really believe they (whoever took her) gave her a drug.
“There is no way they carried her out of there without her awakening.
“If she was taken when she was sleeping by somebody she did not know, she would have screamed the place down.”
Thank you, that is an acceptable cite.  Actually, scrap that, it wasn’t said by Kate McCann so not acceptable.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #325 on: August 02, 2018, 07:24:25 PM »
Thanks for the cite but it doesn’t say that Madeleine would have kicked up a fuss in the process of being abducted, only that she would currently (ie in 2007/08) be giving her abductor a hard time.  Now, if I was really childish I would keep on demanding a cite that confirms what John wrote, thankfully for all concerned I’m not.
There is a lot of information in interviews with Kate and Gerry.  I have not yet discovered how to index a video and to remember what is within them.  A cite to information withing a video is extremely difficult unless one is specifically discussing it.
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Offline Sunny

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #326 on: August 02, 2018, 07:28:36 PM »
Thank you, that is an acceptable cite.  Actually, scrap that, it wasn’t said by Kate McCann so not acceptable.

I would imagine a cite with a quote by Gerry's mother would be acceptable. She of course would know Madeleine very well. But if it isn't good enough for you then it isn't
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #327 on: August 02, 2018, 07:31:15 PM »
I would imagine a cite with a quote by Gerry's mother would be acceptable. She of course would know Madeleine very well. But if it isn't good enough for you then it isn't
John wrote that Kate was adamant Madeleine would have kicked up a fuss on being picked up from her bed, not Gerry’s mum.  I have no doubt if Davel had written what John did and you’d asked for a cite you would have rejected it on the same grounds.
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Offline Erngath

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #328 on: August 02, 2018, 07:33:23 PM »
I would imagine a cite with a quote by Gerry's mother would be acceptable. She of course would know Madeleine very well. But if it isn't good enough for you then it isn't

Speaking as a gran, I would like to think I know my grandchildren very well but I believe their parents are far more familiar with them
And Gerry's mother lived a distance away and would not spend nearly as much time with her grandchildren as fortunately I do.
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #329 on: August 02, 2018, 07:35:17 PM »
I would imagine a cite with a quote by Gerry's mother would be acceptable. She of course would know Madeleine very well. But if it isn't good enough for you then it isn't
Or Kate's mother, in fact anyone who knew Madeleine's character would just about do.

Speaking as a gran, I would like to think I know my grandchildren very well but I believe their parents are far more familiar with them.
And Gerry's mother lived a distance away and would not spend nearly as much time with her grandchildren as fortunately I do.
Kate's parents seem to know more about the kids IMO.
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