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Offline faithlilly

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #570 on: August 05, 2018, 05:51:12 PM »
I believe drug use would only be visible in the hair after prolonged use.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #571 on: August 05, 2018, 05:53:39 PM »
I believe drug use would only be visible in the hair after prolonged use.
So the McCanns really would have had nothing to fear from a drug test on their kids, unless anyone here is suggesting that they sedated their kids over a long period?
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Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #572 on: August 05, 2018, 06:04:15 PM »
So the McCanns really would have had nothing to fear from a drug test on their kids, unless anyone here is suggesting that they sedated their kids over a long period?
If the twins had been tested on 3rd, 4th of May, a different picture may have emerged.
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #573 on: August 05, 2018, 06:14:34 PM »
I’ve been thinking about the stain on Madeleine’s pyjamas, was Madeleine sick while the McCanns weren’t there?

Could the question about the use of sedation have been merely a smokescreen, the implications I'm sure members can work out for themselves?
« Last Edit: August 06, 2018, 01:34:00 PM by John »
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #574 on: August 05, 2018, 06:31:44 PM »
Really?  Three months later they still thought she’d woke and wandered?  I thought Amaral was suspicious of them all from the get go...

That was/is the narrative.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #575 on: August 05, 2018, 06:50:00 PM »
If the twins had been tested on 3rd, 4th of May, a different picture may have emerged.
It may have shown a sedative of some sort was used but not who administered or how.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #576 on: August 05, 2018, 06:50:33 PM »
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline jassi

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #577 on: August 05, 2018, 07:06:32 PM »
It may have shown a sedative of some sort was used but not who administered or how.

That would depend on whether it was a one -off or part of a more regular pattern.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #578 on: August 05, 2018, 07:17:06 PM »
Then can anyone proffer a reason as to why The McCanns would have drawn attention to the possibility that the children had been sedated?
That is the point Kate was making to the FLOs was that she was wondering if there was a connection with what Madeleine had said Thursday morning about the night before.  Kate says she had a tea stain on her pyjamas, i.e. something administered by mouth had spilt IMO.
Kate was thinking even at that stage someone else was "caring" for her kids giving them drinks etc when they were not there IMO.
Later remember someone saw a caring couple enter the apartment the night before.  Reported in the papers but not in the file.

That is why Kate wanted the kids tested because it wasn't the McCanns giving the kids the sedatives, it was someone else interfering with their kids IMO.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #579 on: August 05, 2018, 07:22:27 PM »
Wherever it came from it is proof that the idea of the kids having been sedated was planted within two weeks of Madeleine’s disappearance.  If you think it was the McCanns who planted this idea but also believe it was they who sedated their kids, the question you would have to ask is why would they do this?  Please note, that’s not a question for which I require an answer from G-Unit.
It is not often but I really do thing the combined efforts of the forum has raised a great point here.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #580 on: August 05, 2018, 07:23:30 PM »
They didn't until three months later.
Cite please. 
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #581 on: August 05, 2018, 08:08:10 PM »
If the McCanns didn’t tell the PJ their fears that the children had been sedated, and it wasn’t up to the PJ to figure it out for themselves, then how did the story about the PJ checking local chemists get into the papers less than two weeks later?

Well it didn't come from the PJ. Perhaps the journalists made it up. That would be a bit of a coincidence though, wouldn't it?
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #582 on: August 05, 2018, 08:10:30 PM »
Well it didn't come from the PJ. Perhaps the journalists made it up. That would be a bit of a coincidence though, wouldn't it?
Why do you stage categorically it didnt come from the PJ, if I may be so bold to inquire, no obligation to respond if course.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #583 on: August 05, 2018, 08:13:26 PM »
Cite please.

I already posted the link to Paiva's note where he says Kate told him.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #584 on: August 05, 2018, 08:18:53 PM »
I already posted the link to Paiva's note where he says Kate told him.
Well where is it?   
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/SERVICE_INFORMATION.htm
"Strangely, Kate also made several requests, three months after the disappearance of Madeleine, that the police should take blood, hair and nail tests of Madeleine's twin siblings, because, as she said, she remembered that on the day of Madeleine's disappearance, in spite of all the commotion and noise made by the authorities and other persons who were looking for Madeleine in apartment 5A of the OC, the twins never woke up, having been transported to another apartment, they remained asleep, due to which she now presumes that they were under the effect of some sedative drug that a presumed abductor had administered to the three children in order to be able to abduct Madeleine, a situation which Kate refers to being possible according to what she read in a criminal investigation manual given to her by the British authorities, that would have been the procedure of the abductor in the real case involving abduction, rape and murder of the girl."


I do remember you making that post using this reference http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=9913.msg477720#msg477720 but it doesn't prove that the issue had not been raised before then.
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