Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?

[Robittybob1]

G-unit also posted http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=9937.msg477866#msg477866

"TTOTL page 89 (pdf)

It is only three months later that Kate speaks about this possibility, suggesting that the police procede with these tests.

Ricardo Paiva 3rd September 2007
Strangely, Kate also made several requests, three months after the disappearance of Madeleine, that the police should take blood, hair and nail tests of Madeleine's twin siblings,
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/SERVICE_INFORMATION.htm"

If Amaral says he only knew about this 3 month later the British FLO seem to have let the McCanns down IMO.

The McCanns did not speak directly to Amaral, they were talking to Ricardo Paiva, so it was only hearsay what Amaral was reporting in TTOTL on this matter.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I have already proved that thr McCanns brought up sedation as a possibility within two days of Madeleine’s disappearance.

[G-Unit]

Well where is it?   
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/SERVICE_INFORMATION.htm
"Strangely, Kate also made several requests, three months after the disappearance of Madeleine, that the police should take blood, hair and nail tests of Madeleine's twin siblings, because, as she said, she remembered that on the day of Madeleine's disappearance, in spite of all the commotion and noise made by the authorities and other persons who were looking for Madeleine in apartment 5A of the OC, the twins never woke up, having been transported to another apartment, they remained asleep, due to which she now presumes that they were under the effect of some sedative drug that a presumed abductor had administered to the three children in order to be able to abduct Madeleine, a situation which Kate refers to being possible according to what she read in a criminal investigation manual given to her by the British authorities, that would have been the procedure of the abductor in the real case involving abduction, rape and murder of the girl."


I do remember you making that post using this reference http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=9913.msg477720#msg477720 but it doesn't prove that the issue had not been raised before then.

I have provided the evidence which exists. Anyone wishing to deny what it says needs to find evidence which contradicts it. Kate McCann has told a different story, but there's no evidence supporting her claims. There's also no possible reason why she didn't raise the matter on 4th May in her police interview.

[Robittybob1]

I have provided the evidence which exists. Anyone wishing to deny what it says needs to find evidence which contradicts it. Kate McCann has told a different story, but there's no evidence supporting her claims. There's also no possible reason why she didn't raise the matter on 4th May in her police interview.

Have you got access to a taped recording of all she spoke during the interview on the 4th?  No, I don't believe you have, so you can not claim to know what she raised in her interview on the 4th.

[G-Unit]

Have you got access to a taped recording of all she spoke during the interview on the 4th?  No, I don't believe you have, so you can not claim to know what she raised in her interview on the 4th.

I deal with what is, not what might have been.

[Robittybob1]

I deal with what is, not what might have been.

Well then don't claim to know what was raised or not raised in the interview on the 4th.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I deal with what is, not what might have been.

What is [recorded] is that the McCanns raised the possibility of sedation as early as the 5th May 2007.  Did the FLOs not pass on the McCanns concerns?  If they did, were they ignored by the PJ?  If so, why?
(I have made minor corrections for clarity)

[Mr Gray]

I deal with what is, not what might have been.

You are contradicting yourself...you do deal with what might have been...post today...


That's what the evidence says. Three months after Madeleine disappeared the PJ were focusing on her parents. The sedation was probably mentioned in order to get them to focus on what mattered to the parents; the 'abductor'.

[faithlilly]

What is [recorded] is that the McCanns raised the possibility of sedation as early as the 5th May 2007.  Did the FLOs not pass on the McCanns concerns?  If they did, were they ignored by the PJ?  If so, why?
(I have made minor corrections for clarity)

There certainly isn’t anything in the files that would lead us to believe that the FLOs passed the information on to the PJ.

[Robittybob1]

You are contradicting yourself...you do deal with what might have been...post today...


That's what the evidence says. Three months after Madeleine disappeared the PJ were focusing on her parents. The sedation was probably mentioned in order to get them to focus on what mattered to the parents; the 'abductor'.

Are you highlighting the use by G-unit of the word "probably"?

[Mr Gray]

Are you highlighting the use by G-unit of the word "probably"?

correct

[Robittybob1]

correct

And "The sedation was probably mentioned in order to get them to focus on what mattered to the parents; the 'abductor'" is rather like second guessing as well.  Guessing the purpose behind the possible mention - second guessing.

[Mr Gray]

And "The sedation was probably mentioned in order to get them to focus on what mattered to the parents; the 'abductor'" is rather like second guessing as well.  Guessing the purpose behind the possible mention - second guessing.

probably meaning ...what might be...rather than what is

[Robittybob1]

There certainly isn’t anything in the files that would lead us to believe that the FLOs passed the information on to the PJ.

Other that searching the apartment for drugs, sniffing things and the report of enquires with the chemist.
So it is not no evidence but not much on record.

[Vertigo Swirl]

There certainly isn’t anything in the files that would lead us to believe that the FLOs passed the information on to the PJ.

So of it’s not in the files it didn’t happen, is that your contention?