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Offline Sunny

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #675 on: August 06, 2018, 08:43:06 PM »
I have found it

https://www.pressreader.com/uk/daily-express/20070514/281616710936235

I can't copy and paste though as this is a pdf.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #676 on: August 06, 2018, 08:49:08 PM »
I have found it

https://www.pressreader.com/uk/daily-express/20070514/281616710936235

I can't copy and paste though as this is a pdf.
No mention in that article to suggest the McCanns were responsible for starting a sedation “rumour”, this can’t be the article G-Unit was referring to.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #677 on: August 06, 2018, 08:58:41 PM »
There was a story in the Daily Express on 14th May 2007 saying that the Portuguese police 'believe Madeleine may have been drugged with chloroform by her abductor'. It says detectives visited Chemist's shops to ask if they had sold anything suspicious, including travel sickness pills.

Many of the stories in the UK press were blamed on the Portuguese journalists, but I don't think this story was printed by a Portuguese newspaper, so where did it come from? Not from the PJ; there's no evidence that they were following this line of inquiry in May 2007.

Interestingly, travel sickness pills have been used to sedate children, but 'the abductor' would have had to find a way to get them into the child.
http://www.pressreader.com/uk/daily-express/20070514/281616710936235
How would you know there was no line of inquiry following this?
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #678 on: August 06, 2018, 09:19:51 PM »
Thank you Robittybob1 I am trying to pick it up and learn as I go along. That is why I joined here. Unfortunately as you have seen I have strong views too.

I am not sure whether or not any one used any sedatives on the children but I think the parents reaction was odd at the time by not taking them to the hospital for checking out if they had concerns. Of course this is my opinion.
]What do you think the hospital would have done?  Would they take samples that would be used in a case, or would that information be privileged?  Who was to pay for a bank of tests need to cover multiple potential drugs?
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Offline Sunny

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #679 on: August 06, 2018, 09:23:37 PM »
]What do you think the hospital would have done?  Would they take samples that would be used in a case, or would that information be privileged?  Who was to pay for a bank of tests need to cover multiple potential drugs?

I have provided partial cites on this as I couldn't find an exact one obviously.   I would have expected the portuguese to pay for whatever tests were required to firstly ensure that the twins were safe and not poisoned and secondly see if any sedative had been given, and hopefully this information may give the police a lead on a possible abductor. We have had a poster earlier on this thread say that Raymond Hewlett used paint thinners to sedate children.  Do you see why I say this?
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #680 on: August 06, 2018, 09:25:57 PM »
No mention in that article to suggest the McCanns were responsible for starting a sedation “rumour”, this can’t be the article G-Unit was referring to.

Either the journalists invented the story or someone gave it to them.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #681 on: August 06, 2018, 09:30:49 PM »
I have provided partial cites on this as I couldn't find an exact one obviously.   I would have expected the portuguese to pay for whatever tests were required to firstly ensure that the twins were safe and not poisoned and secondly see if any sedative had been given, and hopefully this information may give the police a lead on a possible abductor. We have had a poster earlier on this thread say that Raymond Hewlett used paint thinners to sedate children.  Do you see why I say this?
I did read that link.   I expressed my doubt that doctors would run extensive tests on the twins the day  if they looked normal then.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #682 on: August 06, 2018, 09:46:43 PM »
How would you know there was no line of inquiry following this?

I can only say that I have been unable to find any evidence suggesting it.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #683 on: August 06, 2018, 09:53:17 PM »
Either the journalists invented the story or someone gave it to them.
But you have already suggested that this is evidence of the McCanns starting a rumour.  That’s a rather serious allegation - more a blatant lie than starting a rumour, if there was no truth in the report.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #684 on: August 06, 2018, 10:05:05 PM »
Either the journalists invented the story or someone gave it to them.
OK someone gave it to them.  Who gave it to them?
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #685 on: August 06, 2018, 10:11:20 PM »
OK someone gave it to them.  Who gave it to them?
Why on earth would the McCanns give them this story?  It makes no sense.  They would have to have approached an Express journo and told them the tall tale, with the caveat “please don’t tell anyone we told you”. Why would they do this?
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #686 on: August 06, 2018, 10:16:18 PM »
OK someone gave it to them.  Who gave it to them?

I don't know. Did any Portuguese journalists run this story? If not, it didn't come from a Portuguese journalist. Were the PJ following this line of inquiry? If not it didn't come from them. Have any chemists ever claimed to have been asked about sedatives? If not then it wasn't them.
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #687 on: August 06, 2018, 10:20:34 PM »
How on earth would they have been able to come to that conclusion after 2 days?!

If it wasn’t where you put it and you realised what had happened.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #688 on: August 06, 2018, 10:26:38 PM »
Why on earth would the McCanns give them this story?  It makes no sense.  They would have to have approached an Express journo and told them the tall tale, with the caveat “please don’t tell anyone we told you”. Why would they do this?

We have been told by Richard Bilton that the McCann camp were willing to exchange information with journalists. He says he refused, but others may have collaborated.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #689 on: August 06, 2018, 10:31:41 PM »
We have been told by Richard Bilton that the McCann camp were willing to exchange information with journalists. He says he refused, but others may have collaborated.
It could have been instigated by the British liaison officers.
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