Author Topic: Is This True? ""partial footwear mark" found just outside Madeleine's bedroom"?  (Read 22891 times)

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Offline Vertigo Swirl

I wonder if the McCanns planted this story, like they allegedly planted the pharmacy enquiry story?   8(0(*
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Offline G-Unit

I think you might be taking her comment a bit too seriously.

I take everything Kate McCann has said very seriously.
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Offline Robittybob1

Not her peers on the holiday; none of them claimed to be 'serious' runners.
Runners in general.  Self conscious about the way she looked.  A lot of people could be like that.
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Offline Robittybob1

In my opinion it would be a criminal offence for police to withhold vital forensic evidence from an investigation.

Your starting point should surely be that the allegation of forensic material as reported in the press has some provenance.
In my opinion provenance for this allegation would be in the forensic reports as recorded in the files.  There is no reference to a bloody footprint found at any location in the forensic reports.

In my opinion you are following entirely the wrong tack here.

I have already covered that.   I said the PJ would use this information at the right time.  For all we know the lady in purple they were looking for 2 years ago has footwear size 5 - 6.  Where is the lady in purple in the released file?  Yet they had statements that Jennifer Murat had seen her.

It appears to be actual as I have pointed out.  What makes you believe that the sightings of the FSS report reported in the papers was not real?

Beliefs are fickle things in general.
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Offline Robittybob1

According to GA he regrets sending forensics to birmingham  he must have his reasons.
I can think of a few reasons that I'm not willing to write down.  Why do you think he felt that way?
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Offline Robittybob1

Had there been such a thing as a bloody footprint it would have been recorded by the Portuguese forensic team who carried out the scientific investigation of the apartment on the 4th May.

The FSS were not involved at this stage.
They could have had samples in duplicate held for later testing. 
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Offline Robittybob1

See Brietta's response.

The FSS was not involved this early on in the investigation.
Was that enough for you to say "shameful"?
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Offline Robittybob1

I wonder if the McCanns planted this story, like they allegedly planted the pharmacy enquiry story?   8(0(*
Let the allegations fly!
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Offline ShiningInLuz

Was that enough for you to say "shameful"?
Yes.  Fantasising about speculation where there is no evidence to support it brings the forum into disrepute.
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Offline Robittybob1

I take everything Kate McCann has said very seriously.
Seriously in what sense?  Well what did you think of the report of a dog attack to her lower right leg.  Wasn't the footwear print from the right foot?  (I'll have to recheck that).
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Offline Robittybob1

Yes.  Fantasising about speculation where there is no evidence to support it brings the forum into disrepute.
I object to that.  Can you prove it is a fantasy about speculation?  I think you need to come up with evidence.
The GMB site has not rejected the idea of the bloodied footwear mark.  Most were singing the praises of Pamalam and Nigel for their work in this forum.
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Offline ShiningInLuz

I object to that.  Can you prove it is a fantasy about speculation?  I think you need to come up with evidence.
The GMB site has not rejected the idea of the bloodied footwear mark.  Most were singing the praises of Pamalam and Nigel for their work in this forum.
Cite - this thread.

Evidence - NO FOOTPRINT IN THE PJ fILES.   &^^&*
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Offline G-Unit

I object to that.  Can you prove it is a fantasy about speculation?  I think you need to come up with evidence.
The GMB site has not rejected the idea of the bloodied footwear mark.  Most were singing the praises of Pamalam and Nigel for their work in this forum.

The media stories which we are able to access weren't included for any particular reason as far as I know. They are there because they're about Madeleine McCann's disappearance.
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Offline Brietta

I have already covered that.   I said the PJ would use this information at the right time.  For all we know the lady in purple they were looking for 2 years ago has footwear size 5 - 6.  Where is the lady in purple in the released file?  Yet they had statements that Jennifer Murat had seen her.

It appears to be actual as I have pointed out.  What makes you believe that the sightings of the FSS report reported in the papers was not real?

Beliefs are fickle things in general.

Robitty, it isn't a pick n mix regarding police deciding which evidence is recorded and which evidence is held back to be used at a later date.
In a criminal investigation every individual piece of evidence gathered has to be considered in relation to all the rest in order to make up the bigger picture.  On its own one item of evidence might be irrelevant until considered in relation to all the evidence gathered.  Remembering that the whole is greater than the sum of the parts ... it is necessary that every piece of evidence has to be slotted into place.

Quite often we hear of cold case reviews turning up information which has been missed ~ as in Madeleine's case ~ and that can only happen if the information is there to be found and not floating around in some policeman's head.

There have been screeds written about the perfidy of the press at the time and the ridiculous unfounded stories they printed of which this is but one.  For this bloody footprint not to have been included in the chain of the evidence harvested and processed by the Portuguese scientific services, would involve the collusion of many honest people in the crime of concealing evidence.  It is inconceivable that they did that.

This is not a smoking gun or an Ace up anyone's sleeve ... it just did not happen.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Robittybob1

Cite - this thread.

Evidence - NO FOOTPRINT IN THE PJ fILES.   &^^&*
There is an examination for footprints in the file.
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