"Start by asking yourself what is a sceptic and work on from there"

[Robittybob1]

It is based on all the statements from both police forces

I should have made it more clear I was talking about your reference to the police forces having a different view of the McCanns.  Gerry said a lot of loose ends have been tidied up, so he must be getting progress reports of some sort.  So I hope that is based on fact.

[Robittybob1]

Your quick today Robbie.   

Why I asked was that there is a report that someone saw a blond woman around the apartments on Thursday night.  If that was the case it was someone different to Jane who is generally described as the brunet.

[Mr Gray]

I should have made it more clear I was talking about your reference to the police forces having a different view of the McCanns.  Gerry said a lot of loose ends have been tidied up, so he must be getting progress reports of some sort.  So I hope that is based on fact.

I dont think the present police forces have a different view of the mccanns

[Angelo222]

Why I asked was that there is a report that someone saw a blond woman around the apartments on Thursday night.  If that was the case it was someone different to Jane who is generally described as the brunet.

Jane was invisible though, at least to Gerry and Jez.  In the spirit of remaining on topic I will add that I am sceptical that she ever walked past them or saw any abductor.

[Mr Gray]

Davel, IMO your posts are littered with, to paraphrase "you don't understand the evidence/facts. I do" so don't try and go defensive on Angelo's post please.

my posts are all qualified by imo...are you now  a mod....If we are free to make critical comments fair enough..perhaps john could clarify the rules

[jassi]

Davel, IMO your posts are littered with, to paraphrase "you don't understand the evidence/facts. I do" so don't try and go defensive on Angelo's post please.

Its a stock phrase brought out whenever considered appropriate. Totally meaningless IMO.

[Mr Gray]

Its a stock phrase brought out whenever considered appropriate. Totally meaningless IMO.

I understand what it means

[John]

All very interesting but can we stay on topic please. TY

[pathfinder73]

Jane was invisible though, at least to Gerry and Jez.  In the spirit of remaining on topic I will add that I am sceptical that she ever walked past them or saw any abductor.

How about another witness on the day of the disappearance NOT remembering another in a towel! 

[Sunny]

How about another witness on the day of the disappearance NOT remembering another in a towel! 

That was amazing, yet he remembered what the children were wearing too. 

[Mr Gray]

That was amazing, yet he remembered what the children were wearing too.

do you have his actual statement to support this

[Robittybob1]

That was amazing, yet he remembered what the children were wearing too.

But did he really remember?  Was the description truly like the Eeyore pyjamas?

[Robittybob1]

Jane was invisible though, at least to Gerry and Jez.  In the spirit of remaining on topic I will add that I am sceptical that she ever walked past them or saw any abductor.

Yet in latter interviews Gerry seems to have no problem that Jane passed Jez and Gerry.

[Mr Gray]

But did he really remember?  Was the description truly like the Eeyore pyjamas?

all the tpas witness statements are hearsay at best...imo

[Sunny]

do you have his actual statement to support this

So I walked back err from the tennis courts, err back to err you know Kate and Gerry's apartment and the time you know looking at, you know we've looked obviously at photographs since then and you know the time that we've got that I was you know going to Kate's about six thirty, err and I went into their apartment through the patio doors. The three children were all you know dressed you know in their pyjamas, you know they looked immaculate, you know they were just like angels, they all looked so happy and well looked after and content and I said to Kate, you know it's a bit early for the you know, for the three of them to be going to bed, she said ah they've had such a great time, they're really tired and you know err so I say, you know I can't remember exactly what, what you know the night attire, what the children were wearing but white was the predominant err colour, but you know just to reinforce they were just so happy, you know seeing you know obviously Gerry wasn't there but they were just all, just so at peace and you know they looked like a family who'd had such a fantastic time and err yeah then I left there, went and got my stuff, went back to the tennis courts and then err there was me, Matt and Russell and I think Gerry played a little, for a little while but he decided that he'd, he'd played enough tennis for that day and err was going back and so it left with me, Russell and err Matt and err Dan who was the, the you know the tennis coach from Mark Warner.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DAVID-PAYNE-ROGATORY.htm

He noticed the children were wearing "night attire" Davel but Kate's towel?