What exactly are the repercussions of 'not being cleared' ?

[Angelo222]

Just what are the repercussions of'not being cleared' in terms of the last edict from the Portuguese Supreme Court?

Both Maddie's parents were made arguidos in her disappearance which most people agree equates to official suspects. When the original investigation was archived due to a lack of evidence not to mention a lack of cooperation by the English witnesses, the arguidos statuses were removed.  The parents claimed that the Attorney General in doing so had effectively cleared them of involvement in the child's disappearance. The Portuguese Supreme Court went out on a limb to dispute this claim effectively stating that they had not been cleared as far as Portugal was concerned.

My question to members is this.  Is it unprecedented that doctors are allowed to practise medicine in such circumstances?

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[carlymichelle]

Just what are the repercussions of'not being cleared' in terms of the last edict from the Portuguese Supreme Court?

Both Maddie's parents were made arguidos in her disappearance which most people agree equates to official suspects. When the original investigation was archived due to a lack of evidence not to mention a lack of cooperation by the English witnesses, the arguidos statuses were removed.  The parents claimed that the Attorney General in doing so had effectively cleared them of involvement in the child's disappearance. The Portuguese Supreme Court went out on a limb to dispute this claim effectively stating that they had not been cleared as far as Portugal was concerned.

My question to members is this.  Is it unprecedented that doctors are allowed to practise medicine in such circumstances?

the mcanns were the  last to see maddie so of course they  will always be suspects  IMO

[Mr Gray]

Just what are the repercussions of'not being cleared' in terms of the last edict from the Portuguese Supreme Court?

Both Maddie's parents were made arguidos in her disappearance which most people agree equates to official suspects. When the original investigation was archived due to a lack of evidence not to mention a lack of cooperation by the English witnesses, the arguidos statuses were removed.  The parents claimed that the Attorney General in doing so had effectively cleared them of involvement in the child's disappearance. The Portuguese Supreme Court went out on a limb to dispute this claim effectively stating that they had not been cleared as far as Portugal was concerned.

My question to members is this.  Is it unprecedented that doctors are allowed to practise medicine in such circumstances?

Absolutely  not and it is a ridiculous suggestion... They haven't been cleared because they haven't been accused or charged with anything

[slartibartfast]

Just what are the repercussions of'not being cleared' in terms of the last edict from the Portuguese Supreme Court?

Both Maddie's parents were made arguidos in her disappearance which most people agree equates to official suspects. When the original investigation was archived due to a lack of evidence not to mention a lack of cooperation by the English witnesses, the arguidos statuses were removed.  The parents claimed that the Attorney General in doing so had effectively cleared them of involvement in the child's disappearance. The Portuguese Supreme Court went out on a limb to dispute this claim effectively stating that they had not been cleared as far as Portugal was concerned.

My question to members is this.  Is it unprecedented that doctors are allowed to practise medicine in such circumstances?

Lots of medical professionals have been found guilty and charged of a range of crimes and still practice. They never lost the presumption of innocence with respect to any criminal charges so there was no reason to suspend them.

[carlymichelle]

wouldnt  a portugese  law interpetation   have more  meaning  then a uk one?? since whatever did happen to maddie was in portugal not the  uk?

[barrier]

Just what are the repercussions of'not being cleared' in terms of the last edict from the Portuguese Supreme Court?

Both Maddie's parents were made arguidos in her disappearance which most people agree equates to official suspects. When the original investigation was archived due to a lack of evidence not to mention a lack of cooperation by the English witnesses, the arguidos statuses were removed.  The parents claimed that the Attorney General in doing so had effectively cleared them of involvement in the child's disappearance. The Portuguese Supreme Court went out on a limb to dispute this claim effectively stating that they had not been cleared as far as Portugal was concerned.

My question to members is this.  Is it unprecedented that doctors are allowed to practise medicine in such circumstances?

The headline we are constantly reminded is that they are "not suspect's" so there is nothing to stop them practising.

[Robittybob1]

wouldnt  a portugese  law interpetation   have more  meaning  then a uk one?? since whatever did happen to maddie was in portugal not the  uk?

From 2008 people in England would have been aware their arguido status was removed so I presume most considered the McCanns no longer suspects and free to practice.  Did Gerry wait to be a non arguido before resuming work?  The timing of that would need to be considered.

[Mr Gray]

From 2008 people in England would have been aware their arguido status was removed so I presume most considered the McCanns no longer suspects and free to practice.  Did Gerry wait to be a non arguido before resuming work?  The timing of that would need to be considered.

Gerry was neither arrested nor charged... So I don't see how that would affect his registration

[Robittybob1]

Gerry was neither arrested nor charged... So I don't see how that would affect his registration

When did he resume work?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1568014/Gerry-McCann-returns-to-work.html
This article is written in Nov 2007 "By Nick Britten3:03PM GMT 01 Nov 2007
Gerry McCann has returned to work for the first time since his daughter's disappearance and admitted he was not anticipating any breakthrough in the case."

So he returned to work before he was cleared as an arguido.  That was surprising.

[G-Unit]

Just what are the repercussions of'not being cleared' in terms of the last edict from the Portuguese Supreme Court?

Both Maddie's parents were made arguidos in her disappearance which most people agree equates to official suspects. When the original investigation was archived due to a lack of evidence not to mention a lack of cooperation by the English witnesses, the arguidos statuses were removed.  The parents claimed that the Attorney General in doing so had effectively cleared them of involvement in the child's disappearance. The Portuguese Supreme Court went out on a limb to dispute this claim effectively stating that they had not been cleared as far as Portugal was concerned.

My question to members is this.  Is it unprecedented that doctors are allowed to practise medicine in such circumstances?

As far as I know Kate McCann hasn't worked as a doctor since her daughter disappeared.

[jassi]

When did he resume work?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1568014/Gerry-McCann-returns-to-work.html
This article is written in Nov 2007 "By Nick Britten3:03PM GMT 01 Nov 2007
Gerry McCann has returned to work for the first time since his daughter's disappearance and admitted he was not anticipating any breakthrough in the case."

So he returned to work before he was cleared as an arguido. That was surprising.

I don't see why. He hadn't been charged with anything, let alone been convicted.

[kizzy]

Absolutely  not and it is a ridiculous suggestion... They haven't been cleared because they haven't been accused or charged with anything

No -  but who knows what would have happened if they had cooperated fully

Like answered all  the questions

done the reconstruction

GA not been took off the case when he was at a crucial part.

IMO - you cannot say they would have been set up - they already had the A+ team in place,




Are you convinced that Madeleine McCann is dead?
 
Gonçalo Amaral - I do have that conviction. It is an interpretation in the light of the Law based in concrete elements, with the knowledge that I have of the inquest and of the diligences done. Yes, I am convinced that she died there.
 
If the father and the mother were constituted as arguidos it’s because they were suspects?
 
GM - They were suspects and there were evidences for them to be constituted as arguidos, actually, strong elements relatively to two types of crime: hiding a cadaver [corpse occultation] and simulation of a crime [faking the crime of kidnapping]. That was public and at the time that I left the investigation that was the situation.
 
And the crime of abandonment, for what reason aren’t the parents accused?
 
GM – The issue there is to know if the children were safe or not. For me it’s evident, even because the parents talked about kidnapping, that there was no safety.
 
Don’t you feel frustrated as the case isn’t moving forward?
 
GM – I do not feel any frustration over the decisions made in courts. I have been around for many years and I do have a great admiration for the magistrates. I understand up to where the work of magistrates can go.
 
However you don't understand why you had to leave?
 
GM – No, not that. I respected the decision as a professional. There was an understanding between the Portuguese and British authorities that the girl was dead and that there was a need to solidify the evidences that existed and move forward to try to understand where she could be.
 
Do you believe that the PJ's reaction had to do with the politicising of the case?
 
GM – I believe that there was more politics than police [at work]. But on the field we did our best and we never felt any defence [probably meaning defence by the Director of PJ towards the ongoing attacks].

Do you think that it is normal for the case to be archived?
 
GM – It doesn’t shock me.

http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/id139.htm

[Mr Gray]

No -  but who knows what would have happened if they had cooperated fully

Like answered all  the questions

done the reconstruction

GA not been took off the case when he was at a crucial part.

IMO - you cannot say they would have been set up - they already had the A+ team in place,




Are you convinced that Madeleine McCann is dead?
 
Gonçalo Amaral - I do have that conviction. It is an interpretation in the light of the Law based in concrete elements, with the knowledge that I have of the inquest and of the diligences done. Yes, I am convinced that she died there.
 
If the father and the mother were constituted as arguidos it’s because they were suspects?
 
GM - They were suspects and there were evidences for them to be constituted as arguidos, actually, strong elements relatively to two types of crime: hiding a cadaver [corpse occultation] and simulation of a crime [faking the crime of kidnapping]. That was public and at the time that I left the investigation that was the situation.
 
And the crime of abandonment, for what reason aren’t the parents accused?
 
GM – The issue there is to know if the children were safe or not. For me it’s evident, even because the parents talked about kidnapping, that there was no safety.
 
Don’t you feel frustrated as the case isn’t moving forward?
 
GM – I do not feel any frustration over the decisions made in courts. I have been around for many years and I do have a great admiration for the magistrates. I understand up to where the work of magistrates can go.
 
However you don't understand why you had to leave?
 
GM – No, not that. I respected the decision as a professional. There was an understanding between the Portuguese and British authorities that the girl was dead and that there was a need to solidify the evidences that existed and move forward to try to understand where she could be.
 
Do you believe that the PJ's reaction had to do with the politicising of the case?
 
GM – I believe that there was more politics than police [at work]. But on the field we did our best and we never felt any defence [probably meaning defence by the Director of PJ towards the ongoing attacks].

Do you think that it is normal for the case to be archived?
 
GM – It doesn’t shock me.

http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/id139.htm

GA misunderstood the evidence as has been cited many times

[Angelo222]

Gerry was neither arrested nor charged... So I don't see how that would affect his registration

That's a mute point because had they not presented themselves for interview they would have been arrested.

[kizzy]

GA misunderstood the evidence as has been cited many times

What you don't know is - exactly what the evidence he knows about is.

He was not a one man band.

IMO if that was the case why - are the mccanns not cleared of any involvement then.