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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: What exactly are the repercussions of 'not being cleared' ?
« Reply #45 on: August 16, 2018, 04:27:17 PM »
Exactly so in my opinion ... was it therefore appropriate for him to take upon himself the role of judge jury and prosecution and decide that he alone "knew" what had happened to Madeleine.
To forge a career out of his "knowledge" which was certainly inferior to that of the Portuguese authorities and the Policia Judiciaria under Rebelo who understood the significance of evidence within a lawful context.


He wrote a book based on the police 'thinking' at that time. a thesis. Have the PJ spokesperson come out and called Amaral all the names you supporters give him?  No!  that is worth remembering.

The behaviour of the Tapas  as arrogant, uncaring and bloody minded about THEIR child caring issues brought this situation on themselves. no point in shouting at others. Really No POINT!
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: What exactly are the repercussions of 'not being cleared' ?
« Reply #46 on: August 16, 2018, 04:31:09 PM »

He wrote a book based on the police 'thinking' at that time. a thesis. Have the PJ spokesperson come out and called Amaral all the names you supporters give him?  No!  that is worth remembering.

The behaviour of the Tapas  as arrogant, uncaring and bloody minded about THEIR child caring issues brought this situation on themselves. no point in shouting at others. Really No POINT!

I don't put the blame onto the mccanns... I believe maddie was taken and blame the abductor

Offline Robittybob1

Re: What exactly are the repercussions of 'not being cleared' ?
« Reply #47 on: August 16, 2018, 04:34:37 PM »

He wrote a book based on the police 'thinking' at that time. a thesis. Have the PJ spokesperson come out and called Amaral all the names you supporters give him?  No!  that is worth remembering.

The behaviour of the Tapas  as arrogant, uncaring and bloody minded about THEIR child caring issues brought this situation on themselves. no point in shouting at others. Really No POINT!
That is wrong - I think you will find it was based on Amaral's thinking at the time of making the McCanns arguidos.
When did he write the book, when were the PJ files released.  When was the case archived?
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: What exactly are the repercussions of 'not being cleared' ?
« Reply #48 on: August 16, 2018, 04:42:53 PM »
That is wrong - I think you will find it was based on Amaral's thinking at the time of making the McCanns arguidos.
When did he write the book, when were the PJ files released.  When was the case archived?

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Offline Angelo222

Re: What exactly are the repercussions of 'not being cleared' ?
« Reply #49 on: August 16, 2018, 04:55:40 PM »
Amaral gives no source for this claim... So it has no validity

Basically just gossip

I would say it was true and Amaral was right to speak out.  In fact it wasn't that long ago that Rowley said the very same thing.
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!

Offline kizzy

Re: What exactly are the repercussions of 'not being cleared' ?
« Reply #50 on: August 16, 2018, 04:57:15 PM »
Oh, I see ... the proud Portuguese State allowed itself to be subordinate to the English?  I very much doubt that.

And the arrogance of the man if not the utter stupidity to insinuate (only a rumour though) that he had to be sacked or no Lisbon Treaty.
WOW ... what an ego!



Well no one has said different or contradicted it - and its there for all to see in his book.

Don't even go there B about arrogance and ego - imo gmcc can win him hands down on that.

Lets face it also -  gmcc lost his little girl GA was trying to find her.

GA doesn't have to justify himself gmcc does imo

Offline Mr Gray

Re: What exactly are the repercussions of 'not being cleared' ?
« Reply #51 on: August 16, 2018, 05:00:57 PM »
I would say it was true and Amaral was right to speak out.  In fact it wasn't that long ago that Rowley said the very same thing.

Cite... He never said anything like it
« Last Edit: August 16, 2018, 05:15:36 PM by Davel »

Offline Sunny

Re: What exactly are the repercussions of 'not being cleared' ?
« Reply #52 on: August 16, 2018, 06:44:39 PM »
Amaral didn't understand  the evidence.. Fact... I do... Fact

Perhaps Scotland Yard should employ you then Davel. According to you, you understand all the evidence so clearly have solved the case and know who the perpetrator is IMO.
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Offline John

Re: What exactly are the repercussions of 'not being cleared' ?
« Reply #53 on: August 16, 2018, 06:53:08 PM »
Perhaps Scotland Yard should employ you then Davel. According to you, you understand all the evidence so clearly have solved the case and know who the perpetrator is IMO.

Davel forgets about all the information gathered by police which never reached the internet.

A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: What exactly are the repercussions of 'not being cleared' ?
« Reply #54 on: August 16, 2018, 07:07:28 PM »
Davel forgets about all the information gathered by police which never reached the internet.

No I don't... But as, we don't know what it entails.. How can we assess it... Pure guesswork... The PJ said they have no evidence against the McCann's.. I don't see any reason to doubt that

Offline Mr Gray

Re: What exactly are the repercussions of 'not being cleared' ?
« Reply #55 on: August 16, 2018, 07:10:08 PM »
Davel forgets about all the information gathered by police which never reached the internet.

Do you think there is more evidence secretly held against the McCann's... I think you are dreaming

Offline Mr Gray

Re: What exactly are the repercussions of 'not being cleared' ?
« Reply #56 on: August 16, 2018, 07:15:03 PM »
Davel forgets about all the information gathered by police which never reached the internet.

Are you claiming as fact that there is evidence against the McCann's, we don't know about... Ridiculous

Offline Robittybob1

Re: What exactly are the repercussions of 'not being cleared' ?
« Reply #57 on: August 16, 2018, 08:35:15 PM »
That is wrong - I think you will find it was based on Amaral's thinking at the time of making the McCanns arguidos.
When did he write the book, when were the PJ files released.  When was the case archived?
Is this when the file was released as given by this clue?

 "ENGLISH TRANSLATIONS OF
OFFICIAL INQUIRY FILES and DOCUMENTS

This information belongs to the Ministerio Publico in Portimao, Portugal.
It was released to the public on 4 August 2008 in accordance with Portuguese Law

So when did Amarals book first get published?
Is this a correct clue "Published July 2008 by Guerra e Paz (first published January 1st 2008)"
and case archived "When was the case archived? 21st July 2008"

That puts a big stick in any SC contention that the information in the case was made public before the book came out.



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Offline jassi

Re: What exactly are the repercussions of 'not being cleared' ?
« Reply #58 on: August 16, 2018, 08:41:46 PM »
Is this when the file was released as given by this clue?

 "ENGLISH TRANSLATIONS OF
OFFICIAL INQUIRY FILES and DOCUMENTS

This information belongs to the Ministerio Publico in Portimao, Portugal.
It was released to the public on 4 August 2008 in accordance with Portuguese Law

So when did Amarals book first get published?
Is this a correct clue "Published July 2008 by Guerra e Paz (first published January 1st 2008)"
and case archived "When was the case archived? 21st July 2008"

That puts a big stick in any SC contention that the information in the case was made public before the book came out.


Is it of importance?
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I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: What exactly are the repercussions of 'not being cleared' ?
« Reply #59 on: August 16, 2018, 08:45:14 PM »
Is it of importance?
Its been a while since the SC decision but didn't the judges try and make out the information in Amarals book was already public before his book was published but according to those dates (which I call clues ) show the book preceded the release a full 8 months.  Surely that is a mistake.
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