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Offline Mr Gray

Re: What exactly are the repercussions of 'not being cleared' ?
« Reply #75 on: August 16, 2018, 09:18:44 PM »
Don't bother - he's flogging a dead horse.

I somehow feel you know little about ECHR law, on defamation

Offline Robittybob1

Re: What exactly are the repercussions of 'not being cleared' ?
« Reply #76 on: August 16, 2018, 09:22:46 PM »
I think you need to check your facts. Amaral's book was published three days after the case was archived.
"Published July 2008 by Guerra e Paz (first published January 1st 2008)" was from the site selling Amaral's book, so why should I doubt that it was first published in some form in Jan 2008.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/7123532-maddie---a-verdade-da-mentira?rating=1
"Paperback, 220 pages
Published July 2008 by Guerra e Paz (first published January 1st 2008)
ISBN 9898174129 (ISBN13: 9789898174123)
Edition LanguagePortuguese
URLhttp://www.guerraepaz.net/conteudo.aspx?caso=ecommerce&lang=pt&id_object=2401&name=MADDIE
Other Editions (4)"
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Offline Robittybob1

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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: What exactly are the repercussions of 'not being cleared' ?
« Reply #78 on: August 16, 2018, 09:41:56 PM »
I somehow feel you know little about ECHR law, on defamation

This is a civil case the SC didn't rule on anything other than a civil dispute. He says- she says- The McCanns failed to produce evidence that Amarals book impeded the search for the daughter whom they left alone every night- I  think they lost the right to a 'good name' by their own actions!
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: What exactly are the repercussions of 'not being cleared' ?
« Reply #79 on: August 16, 2018, 09:55:36 PM »
There seems to be a claim it was also published prior to that.

I am sure there is.
Claiming is one thing being correct is another.
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Offline John

Re: What exactly are the repercussions of 'not being cleared' ?
« Reply #80 on: August 16, 2018, 09:58:48 PM »
Are you claiming as fact that there is evidence against the McCann's, we don't know about... Ridiculous

It's very simple, we don't know what that PJ really think or what evidence they actually hold.  The police will NEVER reveal their hand in any live enquiry, that is basic policing.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline John

Re: What exactly are the repercussions of 'not being cleared' ?
« Reply #81 on: August 16, 2018, 10:02:25 PM »
This is a civil case the SC didn't rule on anything other than a civil dispute. He says- she says- The McCanns failed to produce evidence that Amarals book impeded the search for the daughter whom they left alone every night- I  think they lost the right to a 'good name' by their own actions!

They weren't aware then of course that much of what they did and said would be disseminated across the www.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: What exactly are the repercussions of 'not being cleared' ?
« Reply #82 on: August 16, 2018, 10:17:02 PM »
It's very simple, we don't know what that PJ really think or what evidence they actually hold.  The police will NEVER reveal their hand in any live enquiry, that is basic policing.


Indeed if you look at the Mary Bell case as just one instance- they did not disclose the crime scene yet she drew it!
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: What exactly are the repercussions of 'not being cleared' ?
« Reply #83 on: August 16, 2018, 10:22:53 PM »
They weren't aware then of course that much of what they did and said would be disseminated across the www.

Indeed John, however, they created so many monsters, who were 'nasty' to them, and went on the attack with their 'supporter club' to try and purge the dissent, by calling non lovvies ' evil trolls etc.

 They also couldn't really answer  very simple questions put to them at times. and the LP rogs are shameful!

Sadly there is no justice for MBM.
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline Sunny

Re: What exactly are the repercussions of 'not being cleared' ?
« Reply #84 on: August 16, 2018, 10:28:26 PM »
Indeed John, however, they created so many monsters, who were 'nasty' to them, and went on the attack with their 'supporter club' to try and purge the dissent, by calling non lovvies ' evil trolls etc.

 They also couldn't really answer  very simple questions put to them at times. and the LP rogs are shameful!

Sadly there is no justice for MBM.

Since I have become interested in the case I have been surprised that whilst the original Portuguese case was ongoing the McCanns said they could answer questions because of judicial secrecy then when the case was suspended in July 2008 they still didn't answer questions.  I would have expected them to be open and honest with their supportive public and answer all questions asked.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: What exactly are the repercussions of 'not being cleared' ?
« Reply #85 on: August 16, 2018, 10:39:11 PM »
Since I have become interested in the case I have been surprised that whilst the original Portuguese case was ongoing the McCanns said they could answer questions because of judicial secrecy then when the case was suspended in July 2008 they still didn't answer questions.  I would have expected them to be open and honest with their supportive public and answer all questions asked.

What questions haven't they answered and who was, asking

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: What exactly are the repercussions of 'not being cleared' ?
« Reply #86 on: August 16, 2018, 10:40:24 PM »
Since I have become interested in the case I have been surprised that whilst the original Portuguese case was ongoing the McCanns said they could answer questions because of judicial secrecy then when the case was suspended in July 2008 they still didn't answer questions.  I would have expected them to be open and honest with their supportive public and answer all questions asked.

Indeed. However, their version was being blasted by the family in every media outlet. They started telling their story to the media before the police even got there! Mitchell and PR team were drafted in to clean up their mess. The more  aggressive their attack on the PJ- which began that first night! the more I suspected something isn't right here.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: What exactly are the repercussions of 'not being cleared' ?
« Reply #87 on: August 16, 2018, 10:49:53 PM »
Indeed. However, their version was being blasted by the family in every media outlet. They started telling their story to the media before the police even got there! Mitchell and PR team were drafted in to clean up their mess. The more  aggressive their attack on the PJ- which began that first night! the more I suspected something isn't right here.
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It's quite normal to involve the media in the uk

Offline Sunny

Re: What exactly are the repercussions of 'not being cleared' ?
« Reply #88 on: August 16, 2018, 10:57:21 PM »
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It's quite normal to involve the media in the uk

Is it usual to get your family to criticize the investigating police force within hours though? 

Davel regards questions I was talking about the questions that they were asked by various interviewers during the enquiry up till July 2008 and said they couldn't answer them. They never did answer a lot of them even after the police case was shelved . Why not? 

All IMO of course
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