Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata

[Vertigo Swirl]

If Morse alerted to urine and the child was known to wet themselves don’t you think Grime would have conceded that that may have been the cause of the alert ? Do you think he was being deliberately disengenous ?

Further why didn’t the defence put urine forward as the cause of the alert ? Surely that would have been enough to totally discredit the alerts ?

The defence could have very easily discredited the alerts imo, there certainly were plenty of questions that could have been asked that weren’t.  Not everyone gets a great defence in court, particularly not if you are poor.

[faithlilly]

The defence could have very easily discredited the alerts imo, there certainly were plenty of questions that could have been asked that weren’t.  Not everyone gets a great defence in court, particularly not if you are poor.

Was the defence inadequate then ?

[Vertigo Swirl]

Was the defence inadequate then ?

It’s possible isn’t it?  Or would you argue that it wasn’t?

[Eleanor]

If Morse alerted to urine and the child was known to wet themselves don’t you think Grime would have conceded that that may have been the cause of the alert ? Do you think he was being deliberately disengenous ?

Further why didn’t the defence put urine forward as the cause of the alert ? Surely that would have been enough to totally discredit the alerts ?

Martin Grime was there to promote his Dogs.  It wasn't his place to decide why.

There is much more sense talked on this Forum about Body Fluids.  Perhaps The Defence didn't know, and Martin Grime was hardly likely to tell them.  In My Opinion.

[Mr Gray]

Grime was also a businessman promoting his services for profit....

[faithlilly]

Martin Grime was there to promote his Dogs.  It wasn't his place to decide why.

There is much more sense talked on this Forum about Body Fluids.  Perhaps The Defence didn't know, and Martin Grime was hardly likely to tell them.  In My Opinion.

You appear to know and unless you can provide evidence that the defendant’s lawyers were woefully inadequate then so would they.

[G-Unit]

Martin Grime stated, as everyone knows, that Eddie alerted to decomposing Body Fluids.  Urine is one of those.

In my opinion that's an assumption. Grime may have been including normally excreted urine in his reference to body fluids. but he didn't say he was. In my opinion that would have made the deployment of a cadaver dog a waste of time in any household containing small children.

[Mr Gray]

A friendly word of advice - I find it helps to keep a sense of humour and perspective when posting on this forum.   

What's far more entertaining is the continual efforts by some to put me down.... As though I would be bothered by comments towards me on the forum... I'm far too successful  to be bothered...

[faithlilly]

What's far more entertaining is the continual efforts by some to put me down.... As though I would be bothered by comments towards me on the forum... I'm far too successful  to be bothered...

Of course you are.

[Mr Gray]

In my opinion that's an assumption. Grime may have been including normally excreted urine in his reference to body fluids. but he didn't say he was. In my opinion that would have made the deployment of a cadaver dog a waste of time in any household containing small children.

No it wouldn't....do you not understand  why

[Robittybob1]

What's far more entertaining is the continual efforts by some to put me down.... As though I would be bothered by comments towards me on the forum... I'm far too successful  to be bothered...

back to the topic.

[barrier]

In my opinion that's an assumption. Grime may have been including normally excreted urine in his reference to body fluids. but he didn't say he was. In my opinion that would have made the deployment of a cadaver dog a waste of time in any household containing small children.

Or anywhere or anyone for that matter,first question before I deploy my dogs does any one suffer from incontinence?

[Mr Gray]

In my opinion that's an assumption. Grime may have been including normally excreted urine in his reference to body fluids. but he didn't say he was. In my opinion that would have made the deployment of a cadaver dog a waste of time in any household containing small children.

No it wouldn't....do you not understand  why

[Mr Gray]

Or anywhere or anyone for that matter,first question before I deploy my dogs does any one suffer from incontinence?

Another who doesn't understand  the role of the dogs

[barrier]

Another who doesn't understand  the role of the dogs

If true along with each and everyone on this forum,don't try and claim an high ground there isn't one.